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Good evening and for the fifth straight Halloween, welcome to Ghost Hunters Live.

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I'm Josh Gates, host of Syfy's Destination Truth and this year, Jason, Grant and the

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entire TAPS team are here for a live six hour investigation.

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In case you don't recognize the incredibly intimidating 14 story structure behind me,

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you should know that I am standing in front of the central terminal in Buffalo, New York,

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built in 1929, closed in 1979 and certified haunted by TAPS in 2008.

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Tonight they have returned to this, the site of one of their most terrifying explorations.

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For more evidence, more answers.

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As usual, Jason and Grant have invited a colleague from Ghost Hunters International, Barry Fitzgerald

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will be here tonight and we have an exclusive announcement about his GHI team.

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So here are this evening's guest investigators.

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From Syfy's factor faked paranormal files, we have Ben Hansen.

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From the upcoming Syfy show Being Human, Megan Rath is here and WWE SmackDown superstar

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Kofi Kingston is joining us as well.

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Two exciting Syfy events come to a close tonight.

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We will be announcing the results of the viewers' choice poll for your favorite location investigated

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by TAPS.

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Also, we'll be announcing the winner of our sweepstakes to win a trip to the Stanley

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Hotel.

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You have until midnight to enter, so get to syfy.com and put your name in the hat.

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Of course, tonight's investigation carries our usual bevy of interactive features.

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We'll be explaining all of those in depth in just a moment.

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But now, I'd like to introduce you to my co-host for this investigation.

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From the hit show Warehouse 13 and arriving in a Dodge Caravan, please welcome Allison

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Scaliotti.

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Hey, do I know how to make an entrance or what?

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Unbelievable, how are you?

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Man, it's good to see you.

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I feel like the last time we did this we were in an abandoned cemetery in Northern

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Chile.

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Yes, this is a little bit homey, isn't it?

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Somehow, a buffalo is just as scary to me.

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Well, yeah, it is a bit freaky.

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Listen, it's going to be a great night.

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You're going to be manning the interactive center to see you.

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That's right.

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But you're also going to be investigating as well.

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Yeah, it's my first time out in the field with Jason and Grant, so I'm really pumped.

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Any phobias that we should know about it?

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Are you afraid of the dark?

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Afraid of spiders?

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Afraid of ritual dismemberment?

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What do we need to know, Allison?

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Just co-hosting with you, Gates.

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It's true, it's going to be a terrifying evening.

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Well, good luck in there.

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We will see you in the interactive center.

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The cops are making their way to the terminal.

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We have their vehicles in range, so let's pick up with them as they approach.

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So you guys ready for this live Halloween show?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yes, very much so.

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Do you have any idea where we are?

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No.

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So hang on.

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Navigate?

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Navigation.

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Recent destinations.

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Your route is being calculated.

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This is awesome.

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Well, Barry, it's definitely good to have you off of the international team and over

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here in the US to hang out with us.

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Well, thanks very much.

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It's always a pleasure to work with you guys.

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I'm going to give Steve a call.

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Call Steve Gunzolves.

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Incoming call.

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Hello?

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Hey, Steve.

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Hey, man.

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Adam didn't investigate this location last time, so we wanted Chris to fill in everybody

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on some of the information.

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All right, guys.

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Well, those of you who haven't been here before, we can actually watch the DVD of our last

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investigation here.

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Dang.

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Are you waiting to get on a train?

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This place is awesome.

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It was built back in 1929.

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Jay, you were around when this station was functional, all right?

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Yeah, I was a young kid when this place was still open.

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So Amy, when was the last train to depart the station?

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Yeah, it's definitely nice to have this Wi-Fi in here.

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I can just access the Buffalo Central Terminal website.

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The last train departed on October 28, 1979.

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Wild.

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Well, there's your answer, Chris.

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It's definitely nice having a Wi-Fi hotspot.

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All right, guys.

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Well, I'm gonna let you go.

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All right, sounds fun.

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That was fun.

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There's Josh Gates up there.

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Oh, man.

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Josh looks cold.

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Hey.

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How you doing?

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Good to see you, buddy.

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How are you?

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Josh, how's it going?

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Good to see you.

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How are you?

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Hey, Joe.

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What's going on?

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Good to see you.

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How's it going?

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Hey, what's up, buddy?

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Good.

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I think I pretty much recognize this whole cast of characters you brought with you, although

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I do see a new face at the end here.

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Yeah, it's Adam Berry, winner of Ghost Hunters Academy.

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And newest taps member's been doing great.

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Rightfully so.

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He's awesome.

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Yeah, well, welcome.

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It's gonna be a wild night, Adam.

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And here we are, the terminal.

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You guys remember this place?

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Good to be back.

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Yeah.

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It's like about being here again.

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Oh, it's homey, isn't it?

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It's beautiful.

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Very inviting.

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Yeah, do you fond memories of your first trip here?

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We do.

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We caught some great activity, and hopefully it pays us again tonight.

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Yeah, well, I got the keys.

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You want them?

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Yes, please.

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They're yours for the entire night.

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Enjoy yourselves.

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All right.

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Taps is here in one of this country's scariest locations, and we are getting close to turning

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them loose.

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It's Halloween, and the Ghost Hunters are investigating live on Sci-Fi.

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Tonight on Ghost Hunters, taps return to the haunted Buffalo Central Terminal for Halloween

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live with the Atlantic Paranormal Society.

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Jason Grant Steve Dave

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Amy Chris

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Adam from Ghost Hunters International, Barry Fitzgerald, and from Sci-Fi's Being Human,

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Megan Rath, Ben Hansen from Fact or Fake Paranormal Files, and WWE superstar Kofi Kingston.

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A special appearance by Joe Maddalena from Sci-Fi's new series, Hollywood Treasure.

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With your hosts, Josh Gates and warehouse 13's Allison Staleovi.

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And now, Josh Gates.

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Well earlier today, Jason, Grant, and Steve were given a tour of the location by Ryan

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Willard, the events manager here at Buffalo Central Terminal.

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It covered all the activity from before and since taps first visit.

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While we go inside, here's a look at what they saw.

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Hey, man, how you doing?

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Hey, good.

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How are you?

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Good, good to see you.

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Good to see you.

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Good to see you.

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Thanks for coming back.

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Glad to meet back.

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I think this is going to be a great investigation.

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Since last time you guys were here, we definitely had some more claims and some more activity.

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How much do you refresh us a little on the history of this location?

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Well, the terminal was built and opened in 1929.

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It took two years to build.

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Basically this was the main hub between Chicago and New York City.

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Also this was your main area where people going off to war, World War II, all the main

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wars up to Vietnam, left through these doors.

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So I think the reason why there might be activity here is because of the emotion of sending people

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off to war and then not coming back or coming back in a coffin.

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So now I remember a lot of the claims where people would see apparitions at the ticket

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counters and so forth.

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Is that still going on?

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Yeah, we do have claims of possibly someone going and recreating buying a ticket and then

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getting a response back like a disembodied sound of, yeah, here's your ticket, give me

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tokens or give me something.

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All right, so where to now?

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Let's head up to the third floor.

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This is the infamous water fountain.

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The ghost fountain.

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Just to refresh your memory, the story is a volunteer was coming up the staircase and

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looked at this, well, it's a hole now, but there was an actual water fountain and there

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was two people standing there.

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One took a drink and the other looked at the person and then just disappeared.

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Well, this is also the floor that we caught the figure on the thermal imaging camera.

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Right.

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We heard some noises from this area too.

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Exactly, yeah.

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So hopefully this is another floor you guys are going to really investigate again.

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All right, where to now?

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Let me get head down to the second floor there, the Fidele apartment floor if you want.

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Oh yeah, great.

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Let's do it.

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Up on the second floor, the same floor as Fidele's apartment, I thought, you know, it

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might be time for me to take a small break.

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I saw an old office and I stuck my elbow up on the shelf there and I said to myself,

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I thought at the time, you have any coffee?

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And lo and behold, I actually heard an answer and it was no, so leave.

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It was a disembodied voice.

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So I guess they told me in no uncertain terms to kind of hit the bricks.

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Now we're in Anthony Fidele's apartment.

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Anthony Fidele owned this building after closed in 79, bought it for $75,000, ended up losing

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the building on taxes.

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The city wanted to charge them 100% value of the building.

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And actually this apartment was at one time really nice and used to hold some real wild

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parties up here.

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Really?

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So what happens in here?

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People here, someone calling them similar to what you guys captured.

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I was on a Fidele floor up by Fidele's apartment.

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I happened to glance down towards the hallway and caught something out of the corner of

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my eye.

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And when I actually turned to look at it, the only way I can describe it was as a gray

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mist.

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It wasn't quite like a shadow and it moved from the left side of the hallway to the right

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side of the hallway into the control room.

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I mean generally when you catch something out of your corner of your eye, you look back

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and it's gone.

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You're like, oh, I saw that corner of my eye.

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I actually saw it out of the corner of my eye and looked directly at it.

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You know, so it wasn't like I thought I saw something.

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I actually saw something.

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Guys, now we are on the mezzanine level.

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The mezzanine is that overlook of the concourse.

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Sure.

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Now this was a floor that we were not able to check out last time we were here.

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Yeah, this floor was in pretty rough shape.

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I actually had a personal experience right here on this hallway.

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We were locking up after an event and we started at the top and kind of worked our way down

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and made sure we flushed everyone out.

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So now locked in.

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So we're standing here at the end of the hall.

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And off in one of the rooms, we hear shuffling through paper.

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And like just moving stuff around in one of the rooms.

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So we thought probably someone just left behind maybe doing some relic hunting, trying to

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find a souvenir.

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Yeah, right.

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So we walk up and down the hall and there was no one in that room.

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No animals, nothing?

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Well, the thing is we thought the same thing, possibly a rodent or something.

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But I've never seen any animals.

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There's really no food here.

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So there really would be no reason for animals to be in here.

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It was loud too.

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Almost like a person was walking through there.

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Interesting.

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So this is definitely in a hallway you guys should check out.

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You certainly will.

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We are now in the actual trolley lobby of the central terminal.

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This area is a school for a trolley that was going to lead from downtown Buffalo to the

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central terminal.

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The trolley was never put in place.

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There was a kind of a store of maybe some organized crime being involved with the unions

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trying to hold up progress of the construction of the building.

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So this area hasn't really been used.

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The trolley was never put in.

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But really there is some activity.

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A volunteer did witness a figure coming from one of the doors to the other.

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I was here for an event once and we definitely heard right in front of us some footsteps

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walking past and they weren't coming from up there or anywhere else.

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I mean they were right in front of us.

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It makes sense that possibly this could be kind of like a hiding area or a place where

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they would kind of stay away from the upper-

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The clubhouse.

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Exactly.

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All right.

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So is that everything?

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That's pretty much everything.

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Well thanks a lot man.

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No problem.

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Thank you.

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Come on.

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Let's get out of here.

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All right.

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Let's go and go.

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So Ryan just finished giving us a tour and there's been a lot of claims of activity

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that happened since we investigated this location.

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Tilt down please.

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That's great.

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We're all high hopes that we're able to catch some of these things that people have been

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experiencing and we're just really looking forward to getting this thing going.

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Well that was earlier today but this is now live.

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Taps is just finishing up their equipment setup guys.

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How's it going?

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Excellent.

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It's going great.

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Pretty much all set.

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Dave's just got to finish adjusting a camera and we're set to go.

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All right.

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So.

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All right Dave just move the camera slightly more down.

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Copy.

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Well as you can see.

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Things are getting very close to the beginning of this investigation.

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We come back.

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We're going to be meeting our special guest investigators for the first time and we'll

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take our first trip to the Syfy Interactive Command Center.

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Things are just getting started here so stick around.

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Are you ready for your tour?

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We are live in Buffalo, New York anxiously anticipating the start of the Ghost Hunters

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investigation of this central terminal building behind me.

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While Taps setup continues so does ours.

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This over here is the Dodge Mobile Command Center.

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It's where throughout the night the investigators are going to be able to do real time analysis

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of any evidence coming out of the terminal.

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It's rigged for audio and video and more.

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It does everything so the Ghost Hunters can do anything.

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And no Halloween live investigation would be complete without some special guest to

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scare.

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We've got some fresh meat for the grinder.

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They've never been on a Ghost Hunt before and this should be them now.

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Hello, hello.

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Oh God.

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Welcome.

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How are you?

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Good job.

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How's it going?

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Good to see you.

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How are you?

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Good to see you.

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Hey you too.

321
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What's up man?

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Not too much.

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Well let's introduce this motley crew.

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We have Facts or Fakes Paranormal Files.

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Mr. Ben Hansen.

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Ben, how are you this evening?

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I'm doing good.

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Ready to go.

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Good.

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Now Ben, you've worked with the FBI before.

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You do a lot of investigating on Facts or Fakes.

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You're going to be able to bring that considerable skill set to the investigation tonight?

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Well you know Ghost Hunting is not part of basic training.

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But we have some investigation skills I think that will be useful in there.

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Terrific.

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And from Sci-Fi's upcoming series, Megan Raff.

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Hi.

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How are you?

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You're part of Being Human on Sci-Fi which is coming out very soon.

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How are you doing tonight?

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I'm great.

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How are you?

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Good.

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Excellent.

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Now on Being Human you actually play a ghost, right?

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Yeah.

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So this tonight this is like research for you, right?

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Yeah, you know I think I'm just going to go in there with an open mind and hopefully

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we'll make some contact with ghosts and I'll just ask for some tips.

350
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Yeah, exactly.

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It's like method acting tonight.

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And from the WWE our good friend Kofi Kingston.

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Kofi, how are you man?

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Fantastic man.

355
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You ready for this?

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I'm all right.

357
00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:13,500
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

358
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Now one of your old tag team partner CM Punk was actually on the very first Ghost Hunters

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Live, right?

360
00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:18,500
Yes he was.

361
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Did he have any words of wisdom for you tonight?

362
00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:22,940
Yeah, you know he didn't have any words of wisdom but he's never been the same since.

363
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Traumatized.

364
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Absolutely traumatized.

365
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Yeah, it's a shame.

366
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You mentioned this show and he just shivers in his boots.

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Well, good luck.

368
00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:30,180
Yeah, good luck.

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You'll all get your turn in the terminal tonight but right now though Allison Scaliotti is in

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a sci-fi interactive center to tell you all about the interactive features of tonight's

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investigation.

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Thanks Josh.

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The building around us might be an artifact of the past but we've put together a state

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of the art interactive command center to bring you at home right into the hunt here

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in Buffalo.

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Now the first thing you can do is head to sci-fi.com.

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There you'll find a live video feed of three infrared cameras and a thermal imaging camera

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plus digital photos from tonight's investigation.

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We'll be adding pictures as the night progresses so check it out.

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It's raw, unfiltered and only available online.

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Of course the live taps investigation means the return of the panic button.

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If you see something that demands further investigation, hit the panic button to send

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us the tip.

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We'll check it out.

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Josh Williams and Amy Bruni will be in a special live chat room to answer your online questions

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and other taps members will be stopping in to say hello as well.

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Oh while you're there, take a second to vote in our online poll.

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Pick your ghost hunter's favorite scariest place.

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The winner will be announced at the end of the show and the place that you pick will

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be revisited by taps in an upcoming episode of Ghost Hunters.

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Finally, you can follow our investigators all night long on Twitter.

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They'll be posting updates from all over the terminal.

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We'll check in here again soon but right now Josh is with taps as they're about to hit

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the switch and get this party started.

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I'll see you later.

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Wow, not really.

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Okay, well the cameras are up and ready.

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Everything is set.

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Jay, Grant, how you feeling?

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Feeling good.

401
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Ready to rock and roll, yes.

402
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Steve, where you got your cameras posted tonight?

403
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Let's talk about it.

404
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Alright guys, camera one, this is of course the hallway where the fountain is and that

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we have the fountain and any shadows that they claim to see back there will get.

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The ghost fountain.

407
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I don't actually see a fountain.

408
00:16:09,580 --> 00:16:10,580
No, no, no, yeah, yeah.

409
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It's an invisible fountain.

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It shows up supposedly.

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Right.

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So this is the concourse and we'll get anything that may happen in there.

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Camera three is Fidele's apartment and you remember they claim to see some, you know,

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some interaction with him.

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So we have that covered.

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Camera four is the first floor offices and they claim to see black masses moving around

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back there and our final camera is the trolley lobby and we have that entire trolley lobby

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covered.

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I saw it myself.

420
00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:41,860
Yeah.

421
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Terrific.

422
00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:43,860
You guys are liking, you satisfied here?

423
00:16:43,860 --> 00:16:44,860
Yes, yes it is.

424
00:16:44,860 --> 00:16:45,860
Yeah.

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Just want to get investigated.

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Let's do this.

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Terrific.

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00:16:48,860 --> 00:16:49,860
Well before you guys get investigated, I know you're ready to go.

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I promised a very special announcement about the future of GHI and we have a doozy.

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The newest member of Ghost Hunters International is actually standing in this room right now.

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Jay, care to tell us who it is?

432
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First of all, is it me?

433
00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:03,900
No, no, thank you.

434
00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:04,900
That's not me.

435
00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:05,900
Come on.

436
00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:06,900
It's not you guys either.

437
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They're not standing.

438
00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:10,820
Well, we made some great changes to the international team and one of them being, we sent Chris over

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to join Barry and take it from there.

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Unbelievable.

441
00:17:14,580 --> 00:17:15,580
This is huge news.

442
00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:16,580
Are you excited?

443
00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:17,580
I am beyond excited.

444
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Amazing.

445
00:17:18,580 --> 00:17:21,580
Well, we want to hear all about it but we don't want to hear about it right now because

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there's some ghost hunting to be done here.

447
00:17:22,820 --> 00:17:23,820
Exactly.

448
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Once you guys get out there and get to it, please.

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All right.

450
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But take the thermal.

451
00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:28,980
Let's do that.

452
00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:30,980
You want me to wear it?

453
00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:31,980
Oh, sure.

454
00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:32,980
All right.

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Well, while the team gets ready to go and gets underway, I want to tell you a little

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bit about a couple more things that are going to be part of the show tonight.

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We obviously just made a big announcement that Chris Williams is going to be joining

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the GHI team and we're going to have an exclusive sneak peek later in the show so you can see

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Chris in action with the group over there.

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And while the team gets ready, I also want to tell you about something really cool, the

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new Ghost Hunters iPhone app.

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It actually works with your phone's GPS and has listings of some of the most prominent

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locations that Ghost Hunters has investigated and you can download it right now from the

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iTunes store and it's an amazing way for you to keep connected with where Ghost Hunters

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has been and to some of their most promising evidence.

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And before we get underway here, let's take a look at one of the most promising locations

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here in the Buffalo Central Terminal, the apartment belonging to the late owner, Mr. Tony Fidelli.

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When the Central Terminal closed in 1979, the entire complex was sold for $75,000 to a man

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named Tony Fidelli, who had dreams of turning the facility into a community plaza.

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Tony built an apartment in the terminal that he owned, loved, and preserved from the time

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that it closed until he was forced to sell it to pay the tax bill.

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Now deceased, some believe that Mr. Fidelli might still be in residence here.

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During their first visit to Buffalo Central Terminal, Jason and Grant put Fidelli squarely

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in their sights.

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Jason Fidelli, Director, Buffalo Central Terminal, The Central Terminal, The Central Terminal

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Jason and Grant put Fidelli squarely in their sights.

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Jason Fidelli, Director, Buffalo Central Terminal, The Central Terminal, The Central Terminal

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Jay and I don't like to just wander around a place.

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We like to get a tactic in our head.

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We could target Tony Fidelli because he was the one guy that really loved this place.

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And he delivered with loud voices.

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Was it a voice?

483
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Yeah.

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A distinctive voice.

485
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Shhh.

486
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That just came from in here.

487
00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:16,540
Did you hear that?

488
00:19:16,540 --> 00:19:17,540
That came from in here.

489
00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:18,540
Did you hear that voice?

490
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Shadows.

491
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You saw a shadow?

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Right here.

493
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It just went right by.

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And an hour long tape with only 9 minutes of footage.

495
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Why is it off?

496
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What?

497
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Only 9 minutes on.

498
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No reason to shut it off.

499
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That's crazy.

500
00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:29,540
It was Fidelli's apartment, which was built by a man named Tony Fidelli.

501
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He was the only one who was able to get in.

502
00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:31,540
And he was the only one who was able to get in.

503
00:19:31,540 --> 00:19:32,540
And he was the only one who was able to get in.

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00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:33,540
And he was the only one who was able to get in.

505
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No reason to shut it off.

506
00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:35,540
That's crazy.

507
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It was Fidelli's apartment that provided the team with a stunning EVP.

508
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No.

509
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No.

510
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No.

511
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No.

512
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No.

513
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Is it possible that Tony Fidelli couldn't bear to leave his beloved terminal even in death?

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The TAPS team attempts to find out tonight.

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Well, as you can see, I'm the very last man standing here in the TAPS Command Center,

516
00:20:02,540 --> 00:20:05,540
which means that this investigation is underway.

517
00:20:05,540 --> 00:20:08,540
Jason and Grant have arrived in Fidelli's apartment.

518
00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:09,540
Yeah.

519
00:20:09,540 --> 00:20:18,540
I mean, last time we were in here, we heard those voices.

520
00:20:18,540 --> 00:20:19,540
That's right.

521
00:20:19,540 --> 00:20:21,540
Going from the next room.

522
00:20:21,540 --> 00:20:22,540
Yeah.

523
00:20:22,540 --> 00:20:23,540
All right.

524
00:20:23,540 --> 00:20:29,540
So, it's headed this way.

525
00:20:29,540 --> 00:20:34,540
There's some reflective wallpaper on the walls making a weird thermal signature.

526
00:20:34,540 --> 00:20:39,540
Jason and Grant, Fidelli's apartment.

527
00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:41,540
All right.

528
00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:44,540
Look what you're had and stuff.

529
00:20:44,540 --> 00:20:45,540
Yeah.

530
00:20:45,540 --> 00:20:47,540
So stunning.

531
00:20:47,540 --> 00:20:52,540
Tony, it's Jay and Grant.

532
00:20:52,540 --> 00:20:57,540
We were here a few years ago.

533
00:20:57,540 --> 00:21:02,540
You or someone else spoke to us.

534
00:21:02,540 --> 00:21:05,540
Can you do that again for us?

535
00:21:05,540 --> 00:21:09,540
We miss talking to you.

536
00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:13,540
Do you have footsteps?

537
00:21:13,540 --> 00:21:16,540
I don't know if that's just the stuff on the floor or not.

538
00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:17,540
From in here?

539
00:21:17,540 --> 00:21:19,540
They sounded like they were back here.

540
00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:20,540
We came from...

541
00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:21,540
Look out.

542
00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:26,540
This stuff on the floor.

543
00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:31,540
Tony, we know how much you love this place.

544
00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:42,540
Do you know there's people trying to restore it back to the way you left it?

545
00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:45,540
All right.

546
00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:53,540
So far, this temperature is pretty steady.

547
00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:54,540
All right.

548
00:21:54,540 --> 00:21:59,540
It's a little bit anomalous.

549
00:21:59,540 --> 00:22:03,540
What's that?

550
00:22:03,540 --> 00:22:06,540
It's a big hole in the wall that looks like a person.

551
00:22:06,540 --> 00:22:07,540
Look at that.

552
00:22:07,540 --> 00:22:08,540
We're in here?

553
00:22:08,540 --> 00:22:09,540
Yeah.

554
00:22:09,540 --> 00:22:10,540
See, the hole punched in the wall.

555
00:22:10,540 --> 00:22:11,540
Oh, all right.

556
00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:15,540
The shape of a person.

557
00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:22,540
You also got a lot of reflective material in here too.

558
00:22:22,540 --> 00:22:27,540
You've got to be careful parking the floor, Misson.

559
00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:32,540
Tony, we're guesting your house.

560
00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:37,540
You come out and say hi.

561
00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:38,540
All right.

562
00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:42,540
I think we're getting some wind noise from outside.

563
00:22:42,540 --> 00:22:51,540
I imagine it's bitterly cold out there.

564
00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:55,540
What is that?

565
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:57,540
What, did you get hit?

566
00:22:57,540 --> 00:22:59,540
Just to figure out that.

567
00:22:59,540 --> 00:23:01,540
You can stay right here.

568
00:23:01,540 --> 00:23:02,540
Let me walk down in it.

569
00:23:02,540 --> 00:23:04,540
What, the black, the black light?

570
00:23:04,540 --> 00:23:05,540
Yeah.

571
00:23:05,540 --> 00:23:07,540
It seems really tall, too tall to be a person.

572
00:23:07,540 --> 00:23:08,540
See where you are then.

573
00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:09,540
Where is it?

574
00:23:09,540 --> 00:23:11,540
Keep walking back.

575
00:23:11,540 --> 00:23:13,540
Walk to your right a little bit.

576
00:23:13,540 --> 00:23:14,540
I know what it is.

577
00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:18,540
It's actually this right here, right?

578
00:23:18,540 --> 00:23:20,540
No, to the left.

579
00:23:20,540 --> 00:23:21,540
To the left of this?

580
00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:23,540
Yeah, it's way tall then.

581
00:23:23,540 --> 00:23:24,540
You must be something else.

582
00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:26,540
Maybe it's the black paper there.

583
00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:29,540
All right, you've got a conduit line and so forth.

584
00:23:29,540 --> 00:23:31,540
Yeah.

585
00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:34,540
It was just this reflective paper.

586
00:23:34,540 --> 00:23:41,540
This stuff right here.

587
00:23:41,540 --> 00:23:45,540
Tony, we're going to have a few investigators here tonight.

588
00:23:45,540 --> 00:23:47,540
Everyone's trying to make contact with you.

589
00:23:47,540 --> 00:23:48,540
A few.

590
00:23:48,540 --> 00:23:51,540
We've got a lot of investigators covering this entire place.

591
00:23:51,540 --> 00:23:52,540
Yeah.

592
00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:55,540
If you want to interact with any of them, feel free.

593
00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:59,540
What is that?

594
00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:11,540
What is going on over there?

595
00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:12,540
Did you hear that?

596
00:24:12,540 --> 00:24:13,540
Yeah.

597
00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:20,540
I can hear it.

598
00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:23,540
I don't know if it was a staircase or what.

599
00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:26,540
It sounded like moving an object or a heavy footstep.

600
00:24:26,540 --> 00:24:28,540
Look at the staircase.

601
00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:29,540
It's covered in all debris.

602
00:24:29,540 --> 00:24:31,540
If somebody walks that, it's going to...

603
00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:32,540
You're going to hear it all.

604
00:24:32,540 --> 00:24:35,540
Jason and Grant investigating in Tony Fidelli's apartment.

605
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:38,540
We'll return to them in a moment, plus check in on the other teams

606
00:24:38,540 --> 00:24:42,540
as the live investigation of the Buffalo Central Terminal continues.

607
00:24:42,540 --> 00:24:45,540
Jason and Grant are investigating in the apartment of the Terminal's

608
00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:47,540
late owner, Tony Fidelli.

609
00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:50,540
But right now, we're going to join GHI's Barry Fitzgerald

610
00:24:50,540 --> 00:24:53,540
and, it feels funny saying this, GHI's Chris Williams

611
00:24:53,540 --> 00:25:03,540
and Ben Hansen, who are on the third floor of the

612
00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:04,540
terminal.

613
00:25:04,540 --> 00:25:05,540
Let's join them now.

614
00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:07,540
This whole scene up here, you have a water fountain up here,

615
00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:10,540
you have people at it.

616
00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:12,540
The whole thing just disappeared.

617
00:25:12,540 --> 00:25:15,540
Of course, coming from your show, factor of fact.

618
00:25:15,540 --> 00:25:18,540
How would you approach something like this?

619
00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:21,540
A claim such as this, we're talking about a lot of things.

620
00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:24,540
We're talking about a lot of things, but we're not going to

621
00:25:24,540 --> 00:25:25,540
do that.

622
00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:26,540
We're going to do that.

623
00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:27,540
We're going to do that.

624
00:25:27,540 --> 00:25:28,540
We're going to do that.

625
00:25:28,540 --> 00:25:29,540
We're going to do that.

626
00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:30,540
We're going to do that.

627
00:25:30,540 --> 00:25:31,540
We're going to do that.

628
00:25:31,540 --> 00:25:34,540
It's a claim such as this where two people and an

629
00:25:34,540 --> 00:25:36,540
inanimate object has appeared.

630
00:25:36,540 --> 00:25:39,540
It would be great if they had a video of it.

631
00:25:39,540 --> 00:25:41,540
That would be nice for everybody.

632
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,540
I'd look at the witnesses.

633
00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:46,540
I mean, if you've got a number of people who have witnessed

634
00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:49,540
the same thing, and especially if they don't know

635
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:52,540
each other, that might mean something.

636
00:25:52,540 --> 00:25:53,540
Look at this thing.

637
00:25:53,540 --> 00:25:56,540
Barry, have you ever heard of something like this before?

638
00:25:56,540 --> 00:25:59,540
This tends to happen quite a bit, of course.

639
00:25:59,540 --> 00:26:03,540
What we tend to see is that when the inanimate object appears

640
00:26:03,540 --> 00:26:07,540
within the scene, there's several fields of theory out there

641
00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:10,540
that suggest maybe this is some type of slip that has occurred,

642
00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:16,540
because usually these people that are seen within this vision

643
00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:20,540
actually react to others who also are witnessing.

644
00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:22,540
So we'd almost be the ghosts in that situation.

645
00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:23,540
Exactly.

646
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:25,540
So there seems to be some type of unusual crossover

647
00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:26,540
seems to be occurring.

648
00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:29,540
But of course we've also got cameras pointing down this direction.

649
00:26:29,540 --> 00:26:30,540
This could happen tonight.

650
00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:32,540
It could happen within the next hour.

651
00:26:32,540 --> 00:26:33,540
Let's hope.

652
00:26:33,540 --> 00:26:34,540
The guys is we're walking.

653
00:26:34,540 --> 00:26:38,540
I know that when you first got here, you were doing a setup.

654
00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:39,540
You did a walk-through.

655
00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:40,540
Yeah.

656
00:26:40,540 --> 00:26:42,540
And you guys actually saw something on this floor, right?

657
00:26:42,540 --> 00:26:43,540
We did.

658
00:26:43,540 --> 00:26:45,540
Yeah, Barry saw something on this floor.

659
00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:49,540
But when him and I were on a couple floors down the Fidele floor,

660
00:26:49,540 --> 00:26:51,540
we both saw a man in the room.

661
00:26:51,540 --> 00:26:53,540
So just keep your full body.

662
00:26:53,540 --> 00:26:54,540
Full body.

663
00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:56,540
I've never seen anything like that in my life.

664
00:26:56,540 --> 00:26:58,540
It was the first time I'd ever had an experience like that.

665
00:26:58,540 --> 00:27:02,540
So just keep your eyes open, because this place surprised me already during setup.

666
00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:06,540
But this is also the floor where Jane Grant had that thermal image,

667
00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:07,540
or that thermal hit.

668
00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:08,540
So it's another thing.

669
00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:09,540
Yeah.

670
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:12,540
There does seem to be a lot of shadow movement within this building.

671
00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:14,540
So we need to keep our eyes peeled in that.

672
00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:15,540
Okay.

673
00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:16,540
And these shadows seem to move pretty fast.

674
00:27:16,540 --> 00:27:17,540
Yeah.

675
00:27:17,540 --> 00:27:19,540
I'm going to be running an EVP here.

676
00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:20,540
Start recording.

677
00:27:20,540 --> 00:27:21,540
Okay, you've got one.

678
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:22,540
I like to kind of do it continuously.

679
00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:23,540
That's fine.

680
00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:24,540
I've got many DV, of course.

681
00:27:24,540 --> 00:27:28,540
You know, I'm going to turn mine on too, just in case we split up a little bit.

682
00:27:28,540 --> 00:27:29,540
Okay.

683
00:27:29,540 --> 00:27:32,540
I'll give them more to review, because I know how much they enjoy that.

684
00:27:32,540 --> 00:27:35,540
So what we know about this is it was an office, right?

685
00:27:35,540 --> 00:27:36,540
It was an office floor.

686
00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:39,540
Yeah, it was all office space.

687
00:27:39,540 --> 00:27:44,540
Okay, so this is Ben, Barry, and Chris third floor.

688
00:27:44,540 --> 00:27:47,540
The floor with the water fountain.

689
00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:49,540
Wow, this place.

690
00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:58,540
I don't know if you can see this live for the viewers, but this is in a state of near

691
00:27:58,540 --> 00:28:00,540
collapse in some parts.

692
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:05,540
There's pieces of plaster falling down, wires, and being really tall.

693
00:28:05,540 --> 00:28:07,540
It creates quite a hazard.

694
00:28:07,540 --> 00:28:09,540
I'm the first one who will run into it.

695
00:28:09,540 --> 00:28:13,540
So I should probably be running or going first.

696
00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:14,540
Okay.

697
00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:23,540
Now, Barry, where was it you saw the guy here during the setup?

698
00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:28,540
During setup, we were in the other offices on the other side.

699
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:35,540
Now, this particular person, this figure, moved from the left into the right.

700
00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:37,540
The strange thing is, though, the right was just a wall.

701
00:28:37,540 --> 00:28:39,540
There was no doorway.

702
00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:45,540
Sorry, I don't know why someone assumed it was somewhat real, of course, during the

703
00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:51,540
setup, that it was just moving around, getting things organized.

704
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:53,540
Do you want to start there, then?

705
00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:54,540
I think we should.

706
00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:55,540
Yes, it was just over here.

707
00:28:55,540 --> 00:29:00,540
Now, Chris and Barry, when you guys are doing your investigations, sometimes you do have

708
00:29:00,540 --> 00:29:03,540
crew or people on location.

709
00:29:03,540 --> 00:29:07,540
What happens in that situation where you might catch a glimpse of someone, you're not sure

710
00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:08,540
if they're real or if they're ghosts?

711
00:29:08,540 --> 00:29:12,540
Do you have a way of maybe throwing a pebble at them?

712
00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:14,540
You have to immediately go after them.

713
00:29:14,540 --> 00:29:17,540
You have to make sure.

714
00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:19,540
It almost sounds like something.

715
00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:21,540
Like just moving on paper.

716
00:29:21,540 --> 00:29:23,540
Do you think it's wind?

717
00:29:23,540 --> 00:29:25,540
Could be wind, could be an animal.

718
00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:32,540
It could be anything, but let's hang.

719
00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:37,540
Yeah, listen.

720
00:29:37,540 --> 00:29:42,540
Hello?

721
00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:43,540
Tony, is that you?

722
00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:48,540
Can you knock on something?

723
00:29:48,540 --> 00:29:54,540
Even if it's not Tony, can whoever that is, can you make a noise?

724
00:30:02,540 --> 00:30:07,540
Whoa.

725
00:30:07,540 --> 00:30:09,540
Oh, it's just the window.

726
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:11,540
It got me.

727
00:30:11,540 --> 00:30:12,540
Did you see that?

728
00:30:12,540 --> 00:30:23,540
That's the window.

729
00:30:23,540 --> 00:30:26,540
Last time we were hearing the voices from beyond that door, right?

730
00:30:26,540 --> 00:30:29,540
Yeah, I think this, I think it's for safety reasons.

731
00:30:29,540 --> 00:30:30,540
I think this one's latch.

732
00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:39,540
We can get around the backside, but yeah, see it's, I can get in, but wouldn't be plucking.

733
00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:41,540
Want to try to get around the backside?

734
00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:43,540
Yeah, I think that's going to be the best.

735
00:30:43,540 --> 00:30:45,540
All right.

736
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:49,540
That was us.

737
00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:54,540
All right, let's go this way.

738
00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:56,540
Whoever's here, don't be afraid.

739
00:30:56,540 --> 00:30:58,540
Hey, we're not here to bother you or scare you.

740
00:30:58,540 --> 00:30:59,540
We don't want to disrupt anything.

741
00:30:59,540 --> 00:31:04,540
We just want to get to know you.

742
00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:06,540
With people just like you.

743
00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:08,540
That door's latched.

744
00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:12,540
All right, over here.

745
00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:14,540
Geez, yeah, you can.

746
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:17,540
I thought I saw something walk down there.

747
00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:18,540
How far?

748
00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:20,540
All the way at the end.

749
00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:23,540
It looked like it went from right to left, but it's hard to say.

750
00:31:23,540 --> 00:31:27,540
Kind of just as I looked down at it.

751
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:41,540
It could just been an artifact from the camera.

752
00:31:41,540 --> 00:31:42,540
We're not chasing you.

753
00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:44,540
We're coming to meet you.

754
00:31:44,540 --> 00:31:49,540
Don't be afraid.

755
00:31:49,540 --> 00:31:54,540
There's like nowhere to move to the left.

756
00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:55,540
Anything's in there.

757
00:31:55,540 --> 00:31:57,540
We're going to know.

758
00:31:57,540 --> 00:31:59,540
Well, the thermals, it's nice about the thermals.

759
00:31:59,540 --> 00:32:05,540
You can see through all the darkness real easy.

760
00:32:05,540 --> 00:32:07,540
Got some windows.

761
00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:08,540
That's you.

762
00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:10,540
Well, this is the only area you would have to move because.

763
00:32:10,540 --> 00:32:13,540
Right to left, I think.

764
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:14,540
Right to left.

765
00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:16,540
So it's putting it over here, but look.

766
00:32:16,540 --> 00:32:17,540
It's just you.

767
00:32:17,540 --> 00:32:20,540
Well, you'd literally be climbing over.

768
00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:21,540
We would have heard something.

769
00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:29,540
Tons of debris.

770
00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:32,540
I'd have to review it because I'm not sure if it was.

771
00:32:32,540 --> 00:32:34,540
I just wanted to get down here and see.

772
00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:40,540
The camera reacting or a person.

773
00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:41,540
Don't be afraid.

774
00:32:41,540 --> 00:32:42,540
Come out and say hi.

775
00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:43,540
We were here before.

776
00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:44,540
We didn't bother you then.

777
00:32:44,540 --> 00:32:48,540
I don't think there's another option to get in here.

778
00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:49,540
There's another way.

779
00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:54,540
Everything else is watched.

780
00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:55,540
We've got the stairwell.

781
00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:58,540
So the only other possibility.

782
00:32:58,540 --> 00:32:59,540
Well, now you said right to left.

783
00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:00,540
Boom.

784
00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:01,540
Done.

785
00:33:01,540 --> 00:33:02,540
Yeah.

786
00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,540
I don't know.

787
00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:09,540
Like I said, as soon as I looked at it, I saw it.

788
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:10,540
Just trailing off.

789
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:11,540
Yeah.

790
00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:12,540
Just make note of it.

791
00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:13,540
We've got the note on.

792
00:33:13,540 --> 00:33:14,540
Oh, you got the audio there?

793
00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:15,540
Audio.

794
00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:17,540
So we're good to go.

795
00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:18,540
Mirror.

796
00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:19,540
All right.

797
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:24,540
So that one's latched.

798
00:33:24,540 --> 00:33:25,540
Tony, should we be here?

799
00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:27,540
Do you want us here?

800
00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:29,540
Not just let us know.

801
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:30,540
All right.

802
00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:33,540
Here we go.

803
00:33:33,540 --> 00:33:44,540
This is the backside of that area.

804
00:33:44,540 --> 00:33:48,540
And as teams spread out throughout the building, Jason and Grant continue their investigation

805
00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:49,540
of Fidele's apartment.

806
00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:59,540
We'll be right back with more Ghost Hunters Live after this.

807
00:33:59,540 --> 00:34:03,540
Well, welcome back to Ghost Hunters Live as a light rain begins to spit down here in

808
00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:05,540
front of the Buffalo Central Terminal.

809
00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:12,540
Steve and Tango are nice and dry inside and working alongside WWE superstar Kofi Kingston.

810
00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:16,540
They're downstairs in the area that formerly served as the Trolley Lobby.

811
00:34:16,540 --> 00:34:21,540
Take a look at some of the history and the activity that awaits them there.

812
00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:27,540
The Trolley Lobby at street level carries the distinction of never actually receiving a trolley.

813
00:34:27,540 --> 00:34:32,540
A planned trolley system between downtown Buffalo and the terminal was scrapped under pressure

814
00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:39,540
from organized crime, which controlled both the local taxi franchises and the construction firms.

815
00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:44,540
The trolley, they said, and your train station will never be finished.

816
00:34:44,540 --> 00:34:49,540
Instead, the trolley lobby was used for decades as the entrance for thousands of office workers

817
00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:52,540
in the tower above.

818
00:34:52,540 --> 00:34:56,540
Now, the trolley lobby is the hub of a different kind of activity.

819
00:34:56,540 --> 00:34:59,540
Batteries have a notoriously short life here.

820
00:34:59,540 --> 00:35:06,540
Flashlights flicker on and off, and EMF gauges seem to behave with a life of their own.

821
00:35:06,540 --> 00:35:11,540
Tonight, TAPS returns to the trolley lobby to get to the bottom of this inexplicable activity.

822
00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:19,540
Steve, Tango and their guests are investigating in the trolley lobby.

823
00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:21,540
We are following them now, live.

824
00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:27,540
Last time we were here, yeah. Footsteps.

825
00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:31,540
Footsteps. We heard footsteps coming right from in there.

826
00:35:31,540 --> 00:35:35,540
We couldn't really... I mean, there was no wind.

827
00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:37,540
There was water in there.

828
00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:39,540
It sounded like someone was slushing around.

829
00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:41,540
Oh, really? Yeah.

830
00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:44,540
And they also claim there's a dog down here.

831
00:35:44,540 --> 00:35:46,540
Like a ghost dog.

832
00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:47,540
That'd be cool, huh?

833
00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:49,540
That'd be cool. I don't know.

834
00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:51,540
How I feel about that.

835
00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,540
Want me to go inside? Yeah, let's go right there.

836
00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:55,540
What do you say? Yeah, let's do it.

837
00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:57,540
Yeah, I'll follow you guys.

838
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:01,540
Now, watch out for this, please.

839
00:36:01,540 --> 00:36:02,540
Yeah, you'll take an eye out.

840
00:36:02,540 --> 00:36:05,540
Literally. And once you step...

841
00:36:05,540 --> 00:36:07,540
Did you just...

842
00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:09,540
I thought I smashed it into his face.

843
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:11,540
Sorry.

844
00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:13,540
That would be good.

845
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:21,540
Well, I think we should announce ourselves and let whatever might be here know that we're here.

846
00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:23,540
Absolutely, yeah.

847
00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:26,540
So, hello!

848
00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:28,540
My name's Steve.

849
00:36:28,540 --> 00:36:30,540
My name's Dave.

850
00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:32,540
This is our friend Kofi.

851
00:36:32,540 --> 00:36:34,540
We're here to talk to you.

852
00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:37,540
We're not here to make you do anything you don't want to do.

853
00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:40,540
We're here as friends.

854
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:43,540
Last time we were here, we think we ran into you.

855
00:36:43,540 --> 00:36:46,540
You're trying to give us the slip.

856
00:36:46,540 --> 00:36:48,540
But we're back.

857
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,540
That's right, we're back.

858
00:36:50,540 --> 00:36:52,540
We're back. Back in action.

859
00:36:52,540 --> 00:36:55,540
I'm going to get an EMF baseline.

860
00:36:55,540 --> 00:36:59,540
Kofi, this is an EMF gauge.

861
00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:01,540
I just use this to pick up energy.

862
00:37:01,540 --> 00:37:06,540
It doesn't necessarily mean ghost, but it means there's energy that we can't quite explain and we need to figure it out.

863
00:37:06,540 --> 00:37:07,540
Right.

864
00:37:07,540 --> 00:37:13,540
This is just what I'm going to do with this if I get anything picked up in there.

865
00:37:13,540 --> 00:37:15,540
Watch your step, man.

866
00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:17,540
Thank you.

867
00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:19,540
Someone's going to fall.

868
00:37:19,540 --> 00:37:21,540
See, almost.

869
00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:23,540
Well, it's all this stuff.

870
00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:25,540
I hope you have tetanus.

871
00:37:25,540 --> 00:37:27,540
Tetanus, huh?

872
00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:29,540
Hello?

873
00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:31,540
0.2.

874
00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:35,540
What are you doing there?

875
00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:37,540
I thought I could get a little bit.

876
00:37:37,540 --> 00:37:39,540
You can't get through there.

877
00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:41,540
Look at that.

878
00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:43,540
Staying 0.3.

879
00:37:43,540 --> 00:37:47,540
Now, the base rating is important, so we need to know where to read from.

880
00:37:47,540 --> 00:37:49,540
Right, right.

881
00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:51,540
0.2, 0.3, 0.4 is what we have in here now.

882
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:53,540
So if I got a 0.6, I probably wouldn't pay attention to it.

883
00:37:53,540 --> 00:37:55,540
Right.

884
00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:57,540
So we're looking for 0.2, 1.1.

885
00:37:57,540 --> 00:37:59,540
We're looking for a fluctuation.

886
00:37:59,540 --> 00:38:01,540
That should happen out of nowhere.

887
00:38:01,540 --> 00:38:05,540
And that alerts us that there's some energy here that is not explained,

888
00:38:05,540 --> 00:38:07,540
and we're just going to find out what that energy is.

889
00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:11,540
Whether it's man-made, whether it's natural, geomagnetic,

890
00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:15,540
or something created by something paranormal.

891
00:38:15,540 --> 00:38:19,540
Come on, where are you?

892
00:38:19,540 --> 00:38:23,540
Make a noise for us, please, if you're in here with us.

893
00:38:23,540 --> 00:38:25,540
Did you hear that?

894
00:38:25,540 --> 00:38:27,540
We're back there behind you.

895
00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:29,540
Talk a little louder.

896
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:31,540
Hello?

897
00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:33,540
Was that my echo?

898
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:35,540
No.

899
00:38:35,540 --> 00:38:37,540
Did you hear that?

900
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:39,540
I heard something back into the left.

901
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:41,540
Yeah, back in that room.

902
00:38:41,540 --> 00:38:43,540
It sounded like a deeper resonation.

903
00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:45,540
But I didn't know if it was your voice.

904
00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:47,540
I don't think so. Let me do it again.

905
00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:49,540
Hello?

906
00:38:49,540 --> 00:38:51,540
No.

907
00:38:51,540 --> 00:38:53,540
You heard it? Yeah, I did hear it.

908
00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:55,540
Remember this? You don't have many DVs going on?

909
00:38:55,540 --> 00:38:57,540
I do have many DVs going on.

910
00:38:57,540 --> 00:38:59,540
Because that was pointed in that direction.

911
00:38:59,540 --> 00:39:01,540
Where the recorder was pointed in that direction.

912
00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:03,540
Oh, I see what you're saying.

913
00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:05,540
So we may have that on the mini-TV.

914
00:39:05,540 --> 00:39:07,540
And it was happening when I was talking.

915
00:39:07,540 --> 00:39:09,540
You're right. Absolutely right.

916
00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:11,540
We can bring it out to the dodge.

917
00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:13,540
Yeah, that would be cool.

918
00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:15,540
So was it like being a wrestler?

919
00:39:15,540 --> 00:39:17,540
It's the best job in the world, man.

920
00:39:17,540 --> 00:39:19,540
That's cool.

921
00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:21,540
You get to do all types of cool things like this.

922
00:39:21,540 --> 00:39:23,540
Travel the world.

923
00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:25,540
And meet all kinds of great people.

924
00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:27,540
We have the best fan base in the world.

925
00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:29,540
Best fan fans are hardcore.

926
00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:31,540
Have you always wanted to be a wrestler?

927
00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:33,540
Yeah, man. Because I was young, man.

928
00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:35,540
Congratulations.

929
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,540
No, yeah.

930
00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:39,540
I'm not a fan of wrestling.

931
00:39:39,540 --> 00:39:41,540
I'm not a fan of wrestling.

932
00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:43,540
You follow that through.

933
00:39:43,540 --> 00:39:45,540
No, yeah. I'm real fortunate to say the least.

934
00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:47,540
That's amazing.

935
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:49,540
That's great. You're a SmackDown now.

936
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:51,540
Yeah. Every Friday night on Sci-Fi.

937
00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:53,540
Every Friday night on Sci-Fi.

938
00:39:55,540 --> 00:39:57,540
We couldn't do it. That's for sure.

939
00:39:57,540 --> 00:39:59,540
We can't do it.

940
00:39:59,540 --> 00:40:01,540
I could barely walk.

941
00:40:01,540 --> 00:40:03,540
But when we get in a ranch, we can snap like a turkey land.

942
00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:05,540
I don't know. Hunting ghosts isn't any stuff

943
00:40:05,540 --> 00:40:07,540
that a sneeze at either.

944
00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:09,540
To each their own, I guess.

945
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:11,540
Back there, is that it?

946
00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:13,540
Well, I mean, I think there's just more debris.

947
00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:15,540
Yeah, there's lots.

948
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:17,540
Tango, why don't you try to climb that fence?

949
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:19,540
Yeah.

950
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:21,540
Work your way back there.

951
00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:23,540
And this...

952
00:40:23,540 --> 00:40:25,540
Hey, Tango.

953
00:40:25,540 --> 00:40:27,540
What? 50 bucks.

954
00:40:27,540 --> 00:40:29,540
Oh, great.

955
00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:31,540
And you start there and give it a run and try to get over this thing.

956
00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:33,540
You know, he's supposed to be my friend.

957
00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:35,540
See? I think you could probably make it.

958
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:37,540
Don't be on my side.

959
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:39,540
You could have made it 50 bucks too, I don't know.

960
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:41,540
You would have let me do this, Steve?

961
00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:43,540
Yeah. You would have let me do this.

962
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:45,540
You see that?

963
00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:47,540
We can clear out some of this rubble and give it a shot.

964
00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:49,540
Well, yeah.

965
00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:51,540
God only knows what will happen to me.

966
00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:53,540
I'm a good jumper.

967
00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:55,540
I could jump pretty high.

968
00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:57,540
Why did something move?

969
00:40:57,540 --> 00:40:59,540
I don't know. I mean...

970
00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:01,540
And these things are ready to kill us.

971
00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:03,540
At any moment.

972
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:05,540
I know. This is gonna come right down in my hands.

973
00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:09,540
Yeah. What's over there? Same thing?

974
00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:11,540
Same thing.

975
00:41:11,540 --> 00:41:13,540
Why don't we head out to where that voice was?

976
00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:15,540
Maybe we can get that to happen again.

977
00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:17,540
It clearly doesn't want to come in here.

978
00:41:17,540 --> 00:41:19,540
It's just too messy in here for that.

979
00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:23,540
You aren't even gonna jump over that thing. You're crazy.

980
00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:25,540
Oh, see what happens?

981
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:27,540
See what happens to you?

982
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:29,540
It's karma.

983
00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:31,540
It's karma. See that?

984
00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:33,540
Japanese.

985
00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:35,540
Thank you. Don't let it go.

986
00:41:35,540 --> 00:41:37,540
Fuck you.

987
00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:39,540
Fuck you.

988
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:41,540
Fuck you.

989
00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:43,540
Fuck you.

990
00:41:43,540 --> 00:41:45,540
Fuck you.

991
00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:47,540
Fuck you.

992
00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:49,540
Fuck you.

993
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:51,540
Fuck you.

994
00:41:51,540 --> 00:41:53,540
You're watching Steve Tango and the WWE's

995
00:41:53,540 --> 00:41:55,540
Kofi Kingston investigating

996
00:41:55,540 --> 00:41:57,540
in the trolley lobby.

997
00:41:57,540 --> 00:41:59,540
And here we go to see Allison Scaliotti

998
00:41:59,540 --> 00:42:01,540
in the Syfy Interactive Center.

999
00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:03,540
Here we are in the Syfy Interactive

1000
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:05,540
Center.

1001
00:42:05,540 --> 00:42:07,540
Amy, what do we got?

1002
00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:09,540
How does anyone know if any TAPS member

1003
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:11,540
has been injured during an investigation?

1004
00:42:11,540 --> 00:42:13,540
Only when they wear a big heavy, thick and wireless backpack.

1005
00:42:13,540 --> 00:42:15,540
Like right now.

1006
00:42:15,540 --> 00:42:17,540
We're losing it right now.

1007
00:42:17,540 --> 00:42:19,540
Of course you get scratched, slapped,

1008
00:42:19,540 --> 00:42:21,540
things of that nature. Sometimes when you're walking around

1009
00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:23,540
in the dark, you're bound to eventually get hurt as it is.

1010
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:25,540
It's part of the job, though. Hit, punch, grab, slap,

1011
00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:27,540
push by things that aren't there.

1012
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:29,540
Grab, slap, and push.

1013
00:42:29,540 --> 00:42:31,540
This really does seem like a treacherous location.

1014
00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:33,540
It's rusty, it's dark.

1015
00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:35,540
Are you finding a lot of nooks and crannies out there in the field?

1016
00:42:35,540 --> 00:42:37,540
Well, you should have seen this place before.

1017
00:42:37,540 --> 00:42:39,540
When we first investigated it, it was a lot more dangerous.

1018
00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:41,540
They've cleaned it up. Great job.

1019
00:42:41,540 --> 00:42:43,540
Oh man. I wish I could have been there.

1020
00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:45,540
Well, great. We'll be answering more questions as the night goes on.

1021
00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:47,540
And TAPS investigator Amy Bruni is here on the live chat.

1022
00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:49,540
So head to scify.com where you can find her

1023
00:42:49,540 --> 00:42:51,540
and our exclusive online content

1024
00:42:51,540 --> 00:42:53,540
like our Twitter stream, photo library, and live video feed.

1025
00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:55,540
I'll see you back here in a little bit.

1026
00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:57,540
Barry Fitzgerald and Chris Williams

1027
00:42:57,540 --> 00:42:59,540
are a newly announced team

1028
00:42:59,540 --> 00:43:01,540
from Ghost Hunters International.

1029
00:43:01,540 --> 00:43:03,540
They may be world travelers, but they haven't gone far.

1030
00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:05,540
They're only up on the third floor as we speak,

1031
00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:07,540
and here is what they're up against.

1032
00:43:07,540 --> 00:43:09,540
Welcome to the most terrifying floor

1033
00:43:09,540 --> 00:43:11,540
of the Buffalo Central Terminal.

1034
00:43:11,540 --> 00:43:13,540
The third floor is one of the most active

1035
00:43:13,540 --> 00:43:15,540
paranormal hotspots in the nation.

1036
00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:17,540
And it all starts with this water fountain.

1037
00:43:17,540 --> 00:43:19,540
Can't see it?

1038
00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:21,540
That's because it isn't there.

1039
00:43:21,540 --> 00:43:23,540
And hasn't been for over three decades.

1040
00:43:23,540 --> 00:43:25,540
Still, the water fountain is a little bit more than

1041
00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:27,540
the one in the middle of the city.

1042
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:29,540
Still, that hasn't stopped people from reporting

1043
00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:31,540
seeing the apparitions of two distinct people

1044
00:43:31,540 --> 00:43:33,540
taking a drink and then disappearing.

1045
00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:35,540
During TAP's first visit to the terminal,

1046
00:43:35,540 --> 00:43:37,540
the third floor turned into a parade of audio hits.

1047
00:43:37,540 --> 00:43:39,540
What was that? Do you hear that?

1048
00:43:39,540 --> 00:43:41,540
Boom, footsteps, footsteps.

1049
00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:43,540
Footsteps and voices popped up next to Jason and Grant

1050
00:43:43,540 --> 00:43:45,540
as they walked the halls.

1051
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:47,540
Whoa, look.

1052
00:43:47,540 --> 00:43:49,540
It's not like someone's walking right with us

1053
00:43:49,540 --> 00:43:51,540
in that other room.

1054
00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:53,540
Steve and Tango got the same treatment

1055
00:43:53,540 --> 00:43:55,540
for the first time in a while.

1056
00:43:55,540 --> 00:43:57,540
Steve and Tango got the same treatment.

1057
00:43:57,540 --> 00:43:59,540
What was that?

1058
00:43:59,540 --> 00:44:01,540
What the hell was that?

1059
00:44:01,540 --> 00:44:03,540
I definitely heard voices coming from up there

1060
00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:05,540
and then nothing.

1061
00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:07,540
But most incredibly, there was this.

1062
00:44:07,540 --> 00:44:09,540
A figure walking across the third floor hallway

1063
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:11,540
bright and bold on the thermal imager

1064
00:44:11,540 --> 00:44:13,540
but invisible to the DVR camera.

1065
00:44:13,540 --> 00:44:15,540
Evidence of the paranormal

1066
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:17,540
on the third floor in 2008.

1067
00:44:17,540 --> 00:44:19,540
What will TAPS discover there

1068
00:44:19,540 --> 00:44:21,540
tonight?

1069
00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:23,540
Let's join Chris, Barry,

1070
00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:25,540
and guest investigator Ben Hansen

1071
00:44:25,540 --> 00:44:27,540
up on the third floor.

1072
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,540
Yeah, the dog's outside.

1073
00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:37,540
It's a dog.

1074
00:44:37,540 --> 00:44:39,540
It's a dog outside.

1075
00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:41,540
Okay.

1076
00:44:45,540 --> 00:44:47,540
Okay, man.

1077
00:44:47,540 --> 00:44:49,540
Should we start? Are we ready to start?

1078
00:44:49,540 --> 00:44:51,540
Whenever you're ready. Okay.

1079
00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:53,540
My only question though, guys,

1080
00:44:53,540 --> 00:44:55,540
is like, shouldn't we be doing this in the bigger room

1081
00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:57,540
because someone's at the center of everything?

1082
00:44:59,540 --> 00:45:01,540
Interesting.

1083
00:45:01,540 --> 00:45:03,540
I get some sounds inside. Okay.

1084
00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:05,540
Here we go.

1085
00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:07,540
So, I've had some experience

1086
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:09,540
with using this technique before

1087
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:11,540
in the McPike mansion in Illinois.

1088
00:45:11,540 --> 00:45:13,540
I was doing this.

1089
00:45:13,540 --> 00:45:15,540
Sometimes it seems to me

1090
00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:17,540
I have a theory that entities

1091
00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:19,540
can't communicate with voice,

1092
00:45:19,540 --> 00:45:21,540
but sometimes they're able to manipulate

1093
00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:23,540
sound which is picked up as well.

1094
00:45:23,540 --> 00:45:25,540
So, if there's anybody here

1095
00:45:25,540 --> 00:45:27,540
who would like to

1096
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:29,540
communicate and make themselves known,

1097
00:45:29,540 --> 00:45:31,540
I'm going to tap on this wood

1098
00:45:31,540 --> 00:45:33,540
right here.

1099
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:35,540
Can you replicate this sound?

1100
00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:45,540
Let me try this again.

1101
00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:47,540
Can anyone

1102
00:45:47,540 --> 00:45:49,540
replicate this sound that I'm now tapping on this wall?

1103
00:45:59,540 --> 00:46:01,540
Go back and review that.

1104
00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:07,540
Okay.

1105
00:46:07,540 --> 00:46:09,540
I'm not seeing any movement of any shadow here.

1106
00:46:11,540 --> 00:46:13,540
I think we'll follow Chris.

1107
00:46:13,540 --> 00:46:15,540
We'll move back into the main

1108
00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:17,540
area where

1109
00:46:17,540 --> 00:46:19,540
there seems to be a lot of activity happening.

1110
00:46:21,540 --> 00:46:23,540
Hello.

1111
00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:33,540
Now, one of the common theories as well

1112
00:46:33,540 --> 00:46:35,540
that

1113
00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:37,540
someone subscribed to is that

1114
00:46:37,540 --> 00:46:39,540
spirits tend to hang out in the places

1115
00:46:39,540 --> 00:46:41,540
they're most familiar with in life.

1116
00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:43,540
If I were a spirit,

1117
00:46:43,540 --> 00:46:45,540
I wouldn't

1118
00:46:45,540 --> 00:46:47,540
be hanging around my office building,

1119
00:46:47,540 --> 00:46:49,540
I think, very much.

1120
00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:51,540
It's familiar, but I don't know that

1121
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:53,540
it's one of my favorite places to hang out.

1122
00:46:53,540 --> 00:46:55,540
Sometimes it can just be a form of habit.

1123
00:46:57,540 --> 00:46:59,540
Maybe they come in from 8 and leave at 5.

1124
00:46:59,540 --> 00:47:01,540
What did you say?

1125
00:47:01,540 --> 00:47:03,540
I said, okay.

1126
00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:05,540
In this case, being Sunday, maybe

1127
00:47:05,540 --> 00:47:07,540
it's a weekend for them, they're back at home.

1128
00:47:07,540 --> 00:47:09,540
Hello.

1129
00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:13,540
Is anybody here?

1130
00:47:17,540 --> 00:47:19,540
My name is Chris, and these are

1131
00:47:19,540 --> 00:47:21,540
my friends. This is Barry and Ben.

1132
00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:25,540
Like I said, every so often I

1133
00:47:25,540 --> 00:47:27,540
get this draft of cold.

1134
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:29,540
I have to look up to make sure,

1135
00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:31,540
sure enough, there's a hole in the ceiling.

1136
00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:33,540
There is a draft coming through this way.

1137
00:47:35,540 --> 00:47:37,540
Now, we've seen people

1138
00:47:37,540 --> 00:47:39,540
up here a few times.

1139
00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:41,540
We're seeing shadows. We saw a person.

1140
00:47:43,540 --> 00:47:45,540
Please don't be shy.

1141
00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:47,540
We're not here to hurt you.

1142
00:47:47,540 --> 00:47:49,540
The devices we have are not weapons.

1143
00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:55,540
I have a piece of

1144
00:47:55,540 --> 00:47:57,540
equipment in my hand that will help

1145
00:47:57,540 --> 00:47:59,540
me hear you.

1146
00:48:01,540 --> 00:48:03,540
Can you come up to me and tell me your name?

1147
00:48:05,540 --> 00:48:07,540
Year is 2010.

1148
00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:11,540
What year is it where you are?

1149
00:48:19,540 --> 00:48:21,540
This whole time slip thing is

1150
00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:23,540
kind of creepy.

1151
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:25,540
It is because

1152
00:48:25,540 --> 00:48:27,540
I've been looking at this from the

1153
00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:29,540
mansions, of course, back in England.

1154
00:48:29,540 --> 00:48:31,540
Because

1155
00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:33,540
these ladies have been seen at

1156
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:35,540
the top of staircases and cabinets

1157
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:37,540
have appeared behind them,

1158
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:39,540
which are not there today.

1159
00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:41,540
And whenever they vanish,

1160
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:43,540
so do the pieces of furniture.

1161
00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:47,540
But the thing is, the eyewitnesses

1162
00:48:47,540 --> 00:48:49,540
make contact with this

1163
00:48:49,540 --> 00:48:51,540
alleged entity.

1164
00:48:51,540 --> 00:48:53,540
There's an awareness on both sides

1165
00:48:53,540 --> 00:48:55,540
that they see each other.

1166
00:48:55,540 --> 00:48:57,540
Could it be so wonder who's the ghost

1167
00:48:57,540 --> 00:48:59,540
in a situation like that?

1168
00:48:59,540 --> 00:49:01,540
Well, that's the thing.

1169
00:49:01,540 --> 00:49:03,540
In those particular locations, I'm trying to hunt

1170
00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:05,540
in the archives to see if there's any

1171
00:49:05,540 --> 00:49:07,540
record of people back, say,

1172
00:49:07,540 --> 00:49:09,540
in the 15th century

1173
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:11,540
encountering people that they describe

1174
00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:13,540
in present day.

1175
00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:19,540
Could you please come out for us?

1176
00:49:23,540 --> 00:49:25,540
We'd like to know why you're still here.

1177
00:49:31,540 --> 00:49:33,540
Do you work here?

1178
00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:37,540
No.

1179
00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:45,540
Are you alone?

1180
00:49:49,540 --> 00:49:51,540
How many people work in this building?

1181
00:49:53,540 --> 00:49:55,540
What is it you do here?

1182
00:49:59,540 --> 00:50:01,540
I'm just trying to figure out the shadows over there.

1183
00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:03,540
I don't understand what it is we're seeing.

1184
00:50:03,540 --> 00:50:05,540
Do you go back to the water fountain?

1185
00:50:05,540 --> 00:50:07,540
I know in office buildings

1186
00:50:07,540 --> 00:50:09,540
the cool place to be

1187
00:50:09,540 --> 00:50:11,540
to spread the rumors is the water cooler?

1188
00:50:15,540 --> 00:50:17,540
Maybe a...

1189
00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:19,540
What kind of big rumors do you congregate?

1190
00:50:19,540 --> 00:50:21,540
In the 20s and 30s, maybe that was the place to be.

1191
00:50:21,540 --> 00:50:23,540
Is this possible?

1192
00:50:25,540 --> 00:50:27,540
As well as the woman's bathroom.

1193
00:50:27,540 --> 00:50:29,540
Guys!

1194
00:50:33,540 --> 00:50:35,540
Are you hearing a pounding?

1195
00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:41,540
A deep, busy, busy pounding.

1196
00:50:43,540 --> 00:50:45,540
What?

1197
00:50:45,540 --> 00:50:47,540
A basey.

1198
00:50:47,540 --> 00:50:49,540
A basey.

1199
00:50:49,540 --> 00:50:51,540
That's Irish for basey.

1200
00:50:55,540 --> 00:50:57,540
A deep, basey pounding.

1201
00:50:59,540 --> 00:51:01,540
I understand.

1202
00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:05,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1203
00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:07,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1204
00:51:07,540 --> 00:51:09,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1205
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:11,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1206
00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:13,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1207
00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:15,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1208
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:17,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1209
00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:19,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1210
00:51:19,540 --> 00:51:21,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1211
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:23,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1212
00:51:23,540 --> 00:51:25,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1213
00:51:25,540 --> 00:51:27,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1214
00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:29,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1215
00:51:29,540 --> 00:51:31,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1216
00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:33,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1217
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:35,540
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.

1218
00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:41,540
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1219
00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:44,980
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1220
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1221
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1222
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1223
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1224
00:51:57,540 --> 00:51:59,540
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1225
00:51:59,540 --> 00:52:01,540
It's easy with that.

1226
00:52:01,540 --> 00:52:02,540
You're still getting it?

1227
00:52:02,540 --> 00:52:05,540
The main concourse is the crown jewel of the Buffalo Central Terminal.

1228
00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:09,540
This art deco masterpiece was built in 1929.

1229
00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:13,540
Over 60 feet tall and almost 250 feet long.

1230
00:52:13,540 --> 00:52:18,540
At one time, this concourse served 3,200 passengers an hour.

1231
00:52:19,540 --> 00:52:24,540
Now empty, the concourse level is the center of the terminal's paranormal activity.

1232
00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:28,540
People in the area report seeing apparitions at the ticket counter,

1233
00:52:28,540 --> 00:52:31,540
purchasing tickets for trains that will never leave.

1234
00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:38,540
In 2008, Jason and Grant brought their K2 meter into the baggage claim area

1235
00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:42,540
and left with a chilling experience they can only hope to repeat.

1236
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:44,540
So you're a female?

1237
00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:46,540
Dang! Are you waiting to get on a train?

1238
00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:50,540
Or are you waiting for someone to come off of a train?

1239
00:52:50,540 --> 00:52:53,540
There it is, there it is. We have a live one here.

1240
00:52:53,540 --> 00:52:54,540
Oh man!

1241
00:52:55,540 --> 00:52:58,540
A woman trapped in time waiting for a soldier.

1242
00:52:58,540 --> 00:53:00,540
She waits still.

1243
00:53:02,540 --> 00:53:04,540
Did he ever arrive?

1244
00:53:04,540 --> 00:53:08,540
Tonight, TAPS returns for her spirit and others that may be waiting.

1245
00:53:12,540 --> 00:53:14,540
TAPS

1246
00:53:42,540 --> 00:53:46,540
I'm not actually a ghost, I'm a real life.

1247
00:53:46,540 --> 00:53:47,540
I try that.

1248
00:53:47,540 --> 00:53:48,540
Problem with that.

1249
00:53:48,540 --> 00:53:52,540
Every time I'm scared in my apartment by myself, I'm like, I'm one of you.

1250
00:53:52,540 --> 00:53:54,540
I'm believing along.

1251
00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:58,540
The thing is just moving that device slowly and seeing if you get any fluctuation

1252
00:53:58,540 --> 00:54:00,540
and you want to try to isolate it.

1253
00:54:00,540 --> 00:54:04,540
This is perfect because last time we were here we had an interaction with the K2,

1254
00:54:04,540 --> 00:54:05,540
some kind of conversation.

1255
00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:06,540
Back in this room.

1256
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:07,540
Here?

1257
00:54:07,540 --> 00:54:08,540
Yeah, right in here, in this back room.

1258
00:54:08,540 --> 00:54:09,540
Well can we try to do that?

1259
00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:10,540
Yeah.

1260
00:54:10,540 --> 00:54:11,540
Try it.

1261
00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:13,540
Wait, this thing that I'm holding right now?

1262
00:54:13,540 --> 00:54:14,540
Yeah, watch.

1263
00:54:14,540 --> 00:54:15,540
Come here.

1264
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:16,540
We'll show you how to do it.

1265
00:54:16,540 --> 00:54:19,540
You can actually put it down in one certain area like this.

1266
00:54:19,540 --> 00:54:21,540
You know, you're not getting any hits.

1267
00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:22,540
And then you can try to communicate.

1268
00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:24,540
You can try to get whatever's around to light up the lights.

1269
00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:25,540
Let's try to do it.

1270
00:54:25,540 --> 00:54:28,540
Oh, do we have to have some sort of effectivity on it before we?

1271
00:54:28,540 --> 00:54:30,540
No, we can try to get them to come to us.

1272
00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:31,540
Let's do that.

1273
00:54:32,540 --> 00:54:33,540
Got it?

1274
00:54:33,540 --> 00:54:34,540
Okay.

1275
00:54:34,540 --> 00:54:36,540
Hey, if there's anybody here, this is Jay and Grant.

1276
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:38,540
We're here with our friend Megan.

1277
00:54:38,540 --> 00:54:43,540
And she, last time we were here, we had a conversation with a woman

1278
00:54:43,540 --> 00:54:45,540
who was still waiting for her train.

1279
00:54:45,540 --> 00:54:48,540
I'm wondering if she would be able to communicate with us again tonight.

1280
00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:51,540
We had her using this device with a green light.

1281
00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:56,540
And she would move herself in front of the device and return,

1282
00:54:56,540 --> 00:54:58,540
making it light up for us.

1283
00:54:58,540 --> 00:54:59,540
It's called the K2 meter.

1284
00:54:59,540 --> 00:55:02,540
If you come near it, why don't we back away from it a little?

1285
00:55:02,540 --> 00:55:03,540
Give the entity a little room.

1286
00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:04,540
Come over here.

1287
00:55:04,540 --> 00:55:05,540
Come over here, Megan.

1288
00:55:05,540 --> 00:55:06,540
All right.

1289
00:55:06,540 --> 00:55:10,540
That way they can enter here without feeling like it's a trap.

1290
00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:12,540
A trap, see.

1291
00:55:12,540 --> 00:55:19,540
So if you can approach the device and you'll see that the lights on the device light up,

1292
00:55:19,540 --> 00:55:21,540
it can't hurt you.

1293
00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:23,540
It doesn't hurt us.

1294
00:55:26,540 --> 00:55:31,540
So if you can just approach that device at your leisure,

1295
00:55:31,540 --> 00:55:34,540
we can then use it to communicate with you.

1296
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:36,540
It doesn't give off any heat.

1297
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:39,540
It won't burn you, but it allows us a means of communication.

1298
00:55:39,540 --> 00:55:42,540
So please feel free to use it.

1299
00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:46,540
So if you're here, can you just slowly approach the device?

1300
00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:47,540
It's not a trap.

1301
00:55:47,540 --> 00:55:51,540
It's like, it's the only way, the easiest way we can communicate with you.

1302
00:55:56,540 --> 00:55:58,540
It's kind of like fishing.

1303
00:55:58,540 --> 00:55:59,540
You never know what's going to happen.

1304
00:55:59,540 --> 00:56:00,540
It might get great activity.

1305
00:56:00,540 --> 00:56:02,540
It might get nothing.

1306
00:56:02,540 --> 00:56:05,540
It's the nature of the beast.

1307
00:56:05,540 --> 00:56:07,540
This is exactly where you were last time.

1308
00:56:07,540 --> 00:56:11,540
We were right in this back room.

1309
00:56:11,540 --> 00:56:15,540
I figured this is a little more of a wide open area.

1310
00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:18,540
Megan really wants to get to know you.

1311
00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:20,540
She came all the way down from Canada.

1312
00:56:20,540 --> 00:56:26,540
She's ready to have an experience, ready to meet you, see what you have to say.

1313
00:56:27,540 --> 00:56:31,540
And if now's not the time, any time during the night while we're here,

1314
00:56:31,540 --> 00:56:34,540
would be excellent.

1315
00:56:34,540 --> 00:56:36,540
Well, if you're afraid of the vice,

1316
00:56:36,540 --> 00:56:40,540
maybe you could just come and touch one of us or make a sound.

1317
00:56:40,540 --> 00:56:42,540
See, we're still off in here.

1318
00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:44,540
It sounds like a voice.

1319
00:56:44,540 --> 00:56:48,540
I think it's just the wind barreling through the windows.

1320
00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:51,540
You also just want to pay attention to everything, Megan.

1321
00:56:51,540 --> 00:56:55,540
Any slight feeling on your body, any changing temperature, any sound,

1322
00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:59,540
you really just kind of want to really open yourself up.

1323
00:57:08,540 --> 00:57:10,540
And if you don't get activity in this location,

1324
00:57:10,540 --> 00:57:12,540
move to a different spot.

1325
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:14,540
Use a piece of equipment.

1326
00:57:14,540 --> 00:57:16,540
Okay, we're going to be moving to another spot.

1327
00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:18,540
Feel free to follow us.

1328
00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:24,540
We're going to actually try.

1329
00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:26,540
Yeah, we can try that here in this room.

1330
00:57:30,540 --> 00:57:32,540
Okay, we got some hit.

1331
00:57:32,540 --> 00:57:34,540
Okay, now try and move it around.

1332
00:57:34,540 --> 00:57:36,540
Alright, so...

1333
00:57:36,540 --> 00:57:38,540
Now step forward a little bit.

1334
00:57:38,540 --> 00:57:40,540
Maybe we can follow...

1335
00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:42,540
If this is an entity, maybe we can follow it.

1336
00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:44,540
Alright, now it's moving, so come forward a little, see if you can...

1337
00:57:44,540 --> 00:57:46,540
Maybe in an arc, see if you can find it again.

1338
00:57:46,540 --> 00:57:48,540
Find it again.

1339
00:57:48,540 --> 00:57:49,540
Sorry.

1340
00:57:49,540 --> 00:57:50,540
Maybe step back a little.

1341
00:57:50,540 --> 00:57:51,540
Maybe over here.

1342
00:57:51,540 --> 00:57:53,540
Oh, you just got a blur.

1343
00:57:53,540 --> 00:57:56,540
Now that's not automatically saying that there's something paranormal going on.

1344
00:57:56,540 --> 00:57:57,540
Right.

1345
00:57:57,540 --> 00:57:59,540
Remember, that could be an electrical issue.

1346
00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:00,540
It could be a lot of things.

1347
00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:02,540
But we just, we got to pursue it.

1348
00:58:02,540 --> 00:58:03,540
Right.

1349
00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:06,540
And once it proves itself paranormal or not, then we can make it a fusion.

1350
00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:09,540
I know every time you get something, you just have to move it around.

1351
00:58:09,540 --> 00:58:11,540
You don't even have to look.

1352
00:58:11,540 --> 00:58:13,540
He's like, ooh.

1353
00:58:13,540 --> 00:58:15,540
Oh, at least you haven't run out of the area yet.

1354
00:58:15,540 --> 00:58:17,540
That's a good thing.

1355
00:58:17,540 --> 00:58:19,540
Send me out alone.

1356
00:58:19,540 --> 00:58:20,540
What?

1357
00:58:20,540 --> 00:58:21,540
You could send me out alone.

1358
00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:23,540
We'll lock you in here and just leave.

1359
00:58:23,540 --> 00:58:25,540
Don't worry about locking me in here.

1360
00:58:25,540 --> 00:58:27,540
We're sisters, we always torture.

1361
00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:29,540
That's nice.

1362
00:58:29,540 --> 00:58:31,540
As you can see, we're good people.

1363
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:33,540
You don't have to be afraid of us.

1364
00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:35,540
We're good people.

1365
00:58:35,540 --> 00:58:37,540
We're good people.

1366
00:58:37,540 --> 00:58:39,540
You don't have to be afraid of us.

1367
00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:44,540
We came from a long way.

1368
00:58:44,540 --> 00:58:46,540
You're able to make some sort of contact.

1369
00:58:46,540 --> 00:58:48,540
You're also able to do things like, you know,

1370
00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:50,540
will you be willing to touch me?

1371
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:53,540
Will you walk up, maybe put your hand on my shoulder or something of that nature?

1372
00:58:53,540 --> 00:58:55,540
So now you've got some sort of an interaction.

1373
00:58:55,540 --> 00:58:56,540
Yeah.

1374
00:58:56,540 --> 00:58:58,540
But Megan, you really have to be willing for that to happen.

1375
00:58:58,540 --> 00:58:59,540
I'm so willing, you guys.

1376
00:58:59,540 --> 00:59:01,540
We've done, well, we've done that.

1377
00:59:01,540 --> 00:59:05,540
And people have, well, one time we were at an event and

1378
00:59:05,540 --> 00:59:09,540
the lady actually had to be helped out and she couldn't get off the ground.

1379
00:59:09,540 --> 00:59:11,540
So I've got to make sure you're ready now.

1380
00:59:11,540 --> 00:59:13,540
What is that?

1381
00:59:13,540 --> 00:59:15,540
It's setting it off.

1382
00:59:15,540 --> 00:59:16,540
And it's gone.

1383
00:59:16,540 --> 00:59:18,540
That's so weird.

1384
00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:23,540
Which, if it was constant, then you'd sit there and think it was an electrical issue.

1385
00:59:23,540 --> 00:59:26,540
Yeah, but just come with the leaves.

1386
00:59:26,540 --> 00:59:32,540
Because if you have some of these lines, they're going to make you, there you go.

1387
00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:34,540
Hi.

1388
00:59:34,540 --> 00:59:39,540
Well, but hold it in that spot and say, if that's you, can you back up from the device?

1389
00:59:39,540 --> 00:59:41,540
Can you step back?

1390
00:59:41,540 --> 00:59:46,540
Whatever you're doing is making the device light up, which will allow us a means of communication.

1391
00:59:46,540 --> 00:59:47,540
Can you step back from the device?

1392
00:59:47,540 --> 00:59:52,540
Or stop doing what you're doing, whatever it is, try to change it so the lights stop working.

1393
00:59:52,540 --> 00:59:54,540
So that's constant.

1394
00:59:54,540 --> 00:59:56,540
That's literally...

1395
00:59:56,540 --> 00:59:59,540
Now try to find it again.

1396
00:59:59,540 --> 01:00:00,540
Maybe it's you.

1397
01:00:00,540 --> 01:00:02,540
You got a plate in your head or something?

1398
01:00:02,540 --> 01:00:03,540
Me?

1399
01:00:03,540 --> 01:00:04,540
No.

1400
01:00:04,540 --> 01:00:05,540
I know you don't.

1401
01:00:05,540 --> 01:00:06,540
I think I need one.

1402
01:00:06,540 --> 01:00:07,540
That's my mic.

1403
01:00:07,540 --> 01:00:08,540
That might be your microphone.

1404
01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:09,540
Yeah.

1405
01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:11,540
Yeah, you're very conscious of where your microphone pack is.

1406
01:00:11,540 --> 01:00:12,540
Yeah.

1407
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:13,540
Right there.

1408
01:00:13,540 --> 01:00:14,540
Here.

1409
01:00:14,540 --> 01:00:15,540
Now move it up or down.

1410
01:00:15,540 --> 01:00:16,540
Slowly.

1411
01:00:16,540 --> 01:00:18,540
Okay, so it dies as you go up.

1412
01:00:18,540 --> 01:00:20,540
Now it's gone.

1413
01:00:20,540 --> 01:00:22,540
That's so weird.

1414
01:00:22,540 --> 01:00:25,540
Don't forget about the side rooms.

1415
01:00:25,540 --> 01:00:28,540
Yeah, I think this is going to be far enough.

1416
01:00:28,540 --> 01:00:31,540
Ben, I know that you're aware that we use...

1417
01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:34,540
I have lasers as well.

1418
01:00:34,540 --> 01:00:37,540
We use laser burst technology for G.U.J.

1419
01:00:37,540 --> 01:00:39,540
Would you go to laser with you tonight?

1420
01:00:39,540 --> 01:00:40,540
I do.

1421
01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:41,540
I do.

1422
01:00:41,540 --> 01:00:48,540
Laser that I have with me does not have a lens for a laser grid or anything.

1423
01:00:48,540 --> 01:00:49,540
Okay.

1424
01:00:49,540 --> 01:00:50,540
But we might be able to set it up.

1425
01:00:50,540 --> 01:00:55,540
That's Jason and Grant working alongside Sci-Fi's fetching new ghost girl, Megan Raff.

1426
01:00:55,540 --> 01:00:58,540
We go now to Chris, Barry and Ben who are investigated on the first floor.

1427
01:00:58,540 --> 01:01:01,540
It may work if it's not bright enough.

1428
01:01:01,540 --> 01:01:06,540
Yeah, I think that's going to be an issue.

1429
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:07,540
Is it very bright?

1430
01:01:07,540 --> 01:01:08,540
It's beyond bright.

1431
01:01:08,540 --> 01:01:09,540
Let's take a look.

1432
01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:11,540
It's like lightsaber bright.

1433
01:01:11,540 --> 01:01:12,540
Okay.

1434
01:01:12,540 --> 01:01:13,540
Stand by.

1435
01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:14,540
Oh my God.

1436
01:01:14,540 --> 01:01:15,540
Look at that.

1437
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:16,540
Isn't it crazy?

1438
01:01:16,540 --> 01:01:18,540
See, you know the good thing about this is...

1439
01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:19,540
This is on low intensity.

1440
01:01:19,540 --> 01:01:23,540
We've got the camera set up at the end for the shadows so if it gets blocked out at all,

1441
01:01:23,540 --> 01:01:24,540
down that end it'd be covered.

1442
01:01:24,540 --> 01:01:26,540
I might prop this up somewhere and put it...

1443
01:01:26,540 --> 01:01:27,540
Yeah.

1444
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:28,540
Let's do that.

1445
01:01:28,540 --> 01:01:31,540
You could even set it up on the floor and put something under the front of it just to

1446
01:01:31,540 --> 01:01:32,540
get an angle.

1447
01:01:32,540 --> 01:01:35,540
That's a blue, a blue laser?

1448
01:01:35,540 --> 01:01:36,540
It is.

1449
01:01:36,540 --> 01:01:37,540
Is that too hot?

1450
01:01:37,540 --> 01:01:38,540
That's too hot.

1451
01:01:38,540 --> 01:01:39,540
We've got one more thing.

1452
01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:40,540
I've got my flashlight.

1453
01:01:40,540 --> 01:01:43,540
I'm seeing a lot of dust particles pass through the laser.

1454
01:01:43,540 --> 01:01:44,540
That's insane.

1455
01:01:44,540 --> 01:01:45,540
Open.

1456
01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:46,540
Okay.

1457
01:01:46,540 --> 01:01:47,540
We need to be...

1458
01:01:47,540 --> 01:01:48,540
We've got to set it somewhere like this.

1459
01:01:48,540 --> 01:01:53,540
It needs to hit the end of the hallway though because we've got the IR camera, the DVR

1460
01:01:53,540 --> 01:01:54,540
camera set there.

1461
01:01:54,540 --> 01:01:56,540
It needs to go straight into the room at the back.

1462
01:01:56,540 --> 01:01:58,540
So we just need something smaller to put under it.

1463
01:01:58,540 --> 01:02:02,540
Yeah, we can walk and maybe we can set it up at the very end here.

1464
01:02:02,540 --> 01:02:06,540
Well, there might be something on the floor that's small enough just to prop it up a

1465
01:02:06,540 --> 01:02:07,540
little bit.

1466
01:02:07,540 --> 01:02:08,540
Okay.

1467
01:02:08,540 --> 01:02:09,540
Okay.

1468
01:02:09,540 --> 01:02:10,540
Okay.

1469
01:02:10,540 --> 01:02:11,540
Okay.

1470
01:02:11,540 --> 01:02:16,540
Well, there might be something on the floor that's small enough just to prop it up a

1471
01:02:16,540 --> 01:02:17,540
little bit.

1472
01:02:17,540 --> 01:02:21,540
I can find a chunk of junk like this.

1473
01:02:21,540 --> 01:02:22,540
Here we go.

1474
01:02:22,540 --> 01:02:23,540
We've got some...

1475
01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:24,540
There's plenty of it around.

1476
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:25,540
I'm probably playing with asbestos.

1477
01:02:25,540 --> 01:02:26,540
All right.

1478
01:02:26,540 --> 01:02:27,540
Let's try this.

1479
01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:31,540
As long as you don't eat the paint, you're good.

1480
01:02:31,540 --> 01:02:33,540
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1481
01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:35,540
No, it's too high.

1482
01:02:35,540 --> 01:02:36,540
Right about like this.

1483
01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:37,540
How's that?

1484
01:02:37,540 --> 01:02:38,540
That's good.

1485
01:02:38,540 --> 01:02:39,540
That's good.

1486
01:02:39,540 --> 01:02:40,540
All right.

1487
01:02:40,540 --> 01:02:41,540
That's awesome.

1488
01:02:41,540 --> 01:02:43,540
No, that's lower.

1489
01:02:43,540 --> 01:02:44,540
Lower.

1490
01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:45,540
Lower.

1491
01:02:45,540 --> 01:02:48,540
No, like on the wall, lower.

1492
01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:49,540
Yes.

1493
01:02:49,540 --> 01:02:50,540
Oh.

1494
01:02:50,540 --> 01:02:51,540
There we go.

1495
01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:52,540
More.

1496
01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:53,540
That thing's crazy.

1497
01:02:53,540 --> 01:02:54,540
Like that?

1498
01:02:54,540 --> 01:02:57,540
Just we are riding it above the ground.

1499
01:02:57,540 --> 01:02:59,540
That's as low as we can go.

1500
01:02:59,540 --> 01:03:01,540
Okay, Ben, you've got a recorder on you, right?

1501
01:03:01,540 --> 01:03:02,540
I do.

1502
01:03:02,540 --> 01:03:03,540
We're recording as low as I can go.

1503
01:03:03,540 --> 01:03:06,540
I'm going to leave this recorder down that end while we're here.

1504
01:03:06,540 --> 01:03:07,540
Okay.

1505
01:03:07,540 --> 01:03:08,540
Right.

1506
01:03:08,540 --> 01:03:12,540
You can see that.

1507
01:03:12,540 --> 01:03:13,540
Look at what she's got.

1508
01:03:13,540 --> 01:03:14,540
This laser beam thing is so bright.

1509
01:03:14,540 --> 01:03:18,540
It's like you could almost grab it almost.

1510
01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:19,540
Okay.

1511
01:03:19,540 --> 01:03:21,540
I can see this clearly in the IR.

1512
01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:24,540
You see that?

1513
01:03:24,540 --> 01:03:27,540
If there's anybody here, please don't be afraid to come out.

1514
01:03:27,540 --> 01:03:29,540
This beam of light will not hurt you.

1515
01:03:29,540 --> 01:03:32,540
We are not here to hurt you.

1516
01:03:32,540 --> 01:03:33,540
This device I'm going to put down.

1517
01:03:33,540 --> 01:03:35,540
You might make a hole in your shoe.

1518
01:03:35,540 --> 01:03:36,540
Right here.

1519
01:03:36,540 --> 01:03:37,540
Did you see?

1520
01:03:37,540 --> 01:03:38,540
This?

1521
01:03:38,540 --> 01:03:41,540
She talked to herself already.

1522
01:03:41,540 --> 01:03:42,540
Very.

1523
01:03:42,540 --> 01:03:45,540
This device will help us hear you.

1524
01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:46,540
I saw a flash of light.

1525
01:03:46,540 --> 01:03:48,540
If you get something to say, please don't be afraid to come out.

1526
01:03:48,540 --> 01:03:49,540
There's no one back here, right?

1527
01:03:49,540 --> 01:03:50,540
We're going to leave it right here.

1528
01:03:50,540 --> 01:03:52,540
There's no one back here.

1529
01:03:52,540 --> 01:03:53,540
Yeah, I saw a flash of light.

1530
01:03:53,540 --> 01:03:54,540
What did it look like?

1531
01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:56,540
I mean, like a burst of light.

1532
01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:59,540
Like someone just took a flash like photography or something.

1533
01:03:59,540 --> 01:04:01,540
It was like dimmer, but...

1534
01:04:01,540 --> 01:04:02,540
Hey, Chris?

1535
01:04:02,540 --> 01:04:03,540
Yeah?

1536
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:05,540
Get back here.

1537
01:04:05,540 --> 01:04:06,540
What's up?

1538
01:04:06,540 --> 01:04:09,540
I just saw a burst of light to the room back there on the right.

1539
01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:12,540
I saw a burst of light.

1540
01:04:17,540 --> 01:04:19,540
Right back in here.

1541
01:04:19,540 --> 01:04:23,540
Let's get a look.

1542
01:04:23,540 --> 01:04:26,540
Where is it?

1543
01:04:26,540 --> 01:04:29,540
Right here in the back.

1544
01:04:29,540 --> 01:04:39,540
I know it wasn't any of us because we didn't have our flashlights turned this way.

1545
01:04:39,540 --> 01:04:40,540
All right.

1546
01:04:40,540 --> 01:04:41,540
What do we get for light sources outside?

1547
01:04:41,540 --> 01:04:44,540
Right here.

1548
01:04:44,540 --> 01:04:51,540
That's the only possibility I can think of, except that it reverberated off of this wall right here and came that way.

1549
01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:52,540
But it looked like...

1550
01:04:52,540 --> 01:04:55,540
There are only light sources outside that have got flood lights set up.

1551
01:04:55,540 --> 01:04:57,540
Did it look like it was on the wall?

1552
01:04:57,540 --> 01:05:00,540
Like it could be with light coming in or did it look like it was separate from the wall?

1553
01:05:00,540 --> 01:05:02,540
It's so hard to say.

1554
01:05:02,540 --> 01:05:04,540
Like it may be balanced.

1555
01:05:04,540 --> 01:05:07,540
It wasn't a defined form at all.

1556
01:05:07,540 --> 01:05:09,540
All right, well, just to try out.

1557
01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:11,540
Yeah, it was odd.

1558
01:05:11,540 --> 01:05:14,540
It was kind of like someone was back here taking pictures.

1559
01:05:14,540 --> 01:05:17,540
That laser is so cool.

1560
01:05:17,540 --> 01:05:19,540
Things worried.

1561
01:05:19,540 --> 01:05:22,540
Hello?

1562
01:05:26,540 --> 01:05:29,540
Talking?

1563
01:05:29,540 --> 01:05:38,540
We're hearing some people outside.

1564
01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:44,540
We're now entering the back rooms of the first floor offices.

1565
01:05:44,540 --> 01:05:45,540
Hello?

1566
01:05:45,540 --> 01:05:48,540
If there's anybody here...

1567
01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:51,540
We were just up on the third floor.

1568
01:05:51,540 --> 01:05:52,540
Quiet, quiet.

1569
01:05:52,540 --> 01:05:54,540
Chris is tapping.

1570
01:05:54,540 --> 01:05:58,540
There's too much chatter from outside over here, guys.

1571
01:05:58,540 --> 01:06:01,540
If you want them to trust it recorder-wise.

1572
01:06:01,540 --> 01:06:05,540
We'll make sure we get them to be a little quiet.

1573
01:06:05,540 --> 01:06:07,540
That's me tapping.

1574
01:06:07,540 --> 01:06:15,540
Our guest investigators getting a taste of ghost hunting tonight as Megan Wrath experiences some strange hits on the K2 meter

1575
01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:20,540
and factor faked Ben Hansen sees a mysterious burst of light on the first floor.

1576
01:06:20,540 --> 01:06:23,540
We're taking another commercial break and when we get back

1577
01:06:23,540 --> 01:06:27,540
the triumphant return of the one, the only, the panic button.

1578
01:06:27,540 --> 01:06:29,540
Stay tuned.

1579
01:06:53,540 --> 01:06:56,540
It's me, Steve, and Kofi who are in the tri-lovy.

1580
01:06:56,540 --> 01:06:59,540
We're knocking on a door and we get a knock back, it sounds like.

1581
01:06:59,540 --> 01:07:01,540
Is there any way we can patch that into the Dodge house?

1582
01:07:01,540 --> 01:07:02,540
It's patched in right now.

1583
01:07:02,540 --> 01:07:03,540
Let's do it.

1584
01:07:03,540 --> 01:07:04,540
Come on.

1585
01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:05,540
Okay.

1586
01:07:05,540 --> 01:07:06,540
And here we go.

1587
01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:07,540
Okay.

1588
01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:10,540
Yeah?

1589
01:07:10,540 --> 01:07:11,540
Here it comes.

1590
01:07:11,540 --> 01:07:14,540
I got a block of my table or something.

1591
01:07:20,540 --> 01:07:22,540
Right.

1592
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:26,540
Yeah, and you hear a sound back.

1593
01:07:26,540 --> 01:07:27,540
That's unbelievable.

1594
01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:28,540
It's coming from the door.

1595
01:07:28,540 --> 01:07:29,540
That's amazing.

1596
01:07:29,540 --> 01:07:30,540
Yeah.

1597
01:07:30,540 --> 01:07:33,540
Well, there's going to be a lot more evidence like this and as the evidence comes out of the building

1598
01:07:33,540 --> 01:07:37,540
we'll be bringing out here to the Dodge Mobile Command Center for analysis.

1599
01:07:37,540 --> 01:07:40,540
Let's head back inside the Buffalo Central Terminal.

1600
01:07:40,540 --> 01:07:42,540
We're going to be going to the Interactive Center now.

1601
01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:44,540
We'll see you soon back out here.

1602
01:07:47,540 --> 01:07:48,540
Come on.

1603
01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:51,540
Hey, we're right here in the Interactive Center.

1604
01:07:51,540 --> 01:07:52,540
Josh, thank you.

1605
01:07:52,540 --> 01:07:54,540
Hey, what kind of response are we getting online so far?

1606
01:07:54,540 --> 01:07:55,540
Huge.

1607
01:07:55,540 --> 01:07:56,540
Huge.

1608
01:07:56,540 --> 01:07:58,540
We've had over 30,000 chatters right now.

1609
01:07:58,540 --> 01:07:59,540
That's spectacular.

1610
01:07:59,540 --> 01:08:00,540
Guys, those numbers are great.

1611
01:08:00,540 --> 01:08:01,540
Keep it up.

1612
01:08:01,540 --> 01:08:04,540
Do we have a question we can answer for the folks at home right now?

1613
01:08:04,540 --> 01:08:05,540
We do.

1614
01:08:05,540 --> 01:08:06,540
We have a really good one actually.

1615
01:08:06,540 --> 01:08:09,540
Norm from Oklahoma is asking, are ghosts more attracted to children than adults?

1616
01:08:09,540 --> 01:08:10,540
That's a really good question.

1617
01:08:10,540 --> 01:08:11,540
What do you think about that?

1618
01:08:11,540 --> 01:08:15,540
Well, you know, honestly a lot of people seem to have paranormal experiences when they're

1619
01:08:15,540 --> 01:08:18,540
kids and they remember them and that's what gets them into this.

1620
01:08:18,540 --> 01:08:19,540
Myself included.

1621
01:08:19,540 --> 01:08:20,540
Right.

1622
01:08:20,540 --> 01:08:22,540
But there might be something to that.

1623
01:08:22,540 --> 01:08:24,540
You know, people are actually researching it.

1624
01:08:24,540 --> 01:08:26,540
So it does happen quite often.

1625
01:08:26,540 --> 01:08:31,540
Yeah, I mean, I used to hear as a kid that, you know, like a child's spirit is more open

1626
01:08:31,540 --> 01:08:33,540
to, you know, that kind of energy.

1627
01:08:33,540 --> 01:08:35,540
So it's definitely food for thought.

1628
01:08:35,540 --> 01:08:36,540
All right.

1629
01:08:36,540 --> 01:08:38,540
Well, another mystery solved here in the Interactive Center.

1630
01:08:38,540 --> 01:08:42,540
You can ask Amy or the other members of TAPS a question or just send us a panic button

1631
01:08:42,540 --> 01:08:43,540
alert by going to sci-fi.com.

1632
01:08:43,540 --> 01:08:46,540
Just a reminder, our online viewers' choice poll is still up.

1633
01:08:46,540 --> 01:08:49,540
Vote for your favorite scariest place and we'll have the results at the end of the night.

1634
01:08:49,540 --> 01:08:53,540
And your pick will be revisited by TAPS in an upcoming episode of Ghost Hunters.

1635
01:08:53,540 --> 01:08:57,540
We're going to take a quick break, but when we come back, more of the Ghost Hunters Halloween

1636
01:08:57,540 --> 01:09:00,540
live investigation here at Buffalo Central Terminal.

1637
01:09:00,540 --> 01:09:03,540
And later Josh will sit down for a talk with the newest member of the TAPS team.

1638
01:09:03,540 --> 01:09:04,540
Stay with us.

1639
01:09:04,540 --> 01:09:05,540
Don't go anywhere.

1640
01:09:05,540 --> 01:09:06,540
Jesus Christ.

1641
01:09:06,540 --> 01:09:08,540
Well, we're going to have a quick break.

1642
01:09:08,540 --> 01:09:23,540
Well, welcome once again to this live Ghost Hunters investigation.

1643
01:09:23,540 --> 01:09:29,540
Not even two hours since we began and it has already proved to be a lively chase by the TAPS team.

1644
01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:34,540
We've seen some strange K2 meter readings courtesy of Megan Rath operating in the concourse.

1645
01:09:34,540 --> 01:09:39,540
And of course, Ben Hansen thought he saw a burst of light investigating on the first floor.

1646
01:09:39,540 --> 01:09:46,540
Jason and Grant have been investigating in the late Tony Fidelli's apartment and we've had teams down in the trolley lobby as well.

1647
01:09:46,540 --> 01:09:47,540
That's the story so far.

1648
01:09:47,540 --> 01:09:52,540
At this very moment, let's rejoin Chris and Barry on the first floor of the terminal.

1649
01:09:52,540 --> 01:09:56,540
It's dark in there, but they've got Ben Hansen from sci-fi's Factor Faked as a chaperone.

1650
01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:58,540
Let's link in with them now.

1651
01:10:05,540 --> 01:10:07,540
We're not here to cause you any harm.

1652
01:10:12,540 --> 01:10:17,540
Can you come forward and give us a sign that you understand?

1653
01:10:17,540 --> 01:10:19,540
Move an object.

1654
01:10:23,540 --> 01:10:24,540
Move an object.

1655
01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:26,540
Give us a definitive sound.

1656
01:10:35,540 --> 01:10:37,540
I want you to try a little harder.

1657
01:10:42,540 --> 01:10:44,540
Please try a little harder.

1658
01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:47,540
What is your name?

1659
01:10:50,540 --> 01:10:53,540
We need your help right now.

1660
01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:56,540
And I know that might sound strange.

1661
01:10:56,540 --> 01:11:00,540
We understand that this is your space.

1662
01:11:00,540 --> 01:11:04,540
I understand that we just walked into your space.

1663
01:11:04,540 --> 01:11:07,540
We apologize for trespassing.

1664
01:11:07,540 --> 01:11:09,540
But we need your help.

1665
01:11:09,540 --> 01:11:12,540
We're here looking for people like you.

1666
01:11:12,540 --> 01:11:14,540
You're different than us.

1667
01:11:14,540 --> 01:11:18,540
For some reason, we cannot see you right now.

1668
01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:21,540
We cannot hear you at the moment.

1669
01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:27,540
And we're asking you to do whatever you can to help us either here or see you.

1670
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:31,540
We're trying to understand how this whole thing works.

1671
01:11:31,540 --> 01:11:33,540
Again, we're not afraid of you.

1672
01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:36,540
You do not have to be afraid of us.

1673
01:11:38,540 --> 01:11:39,540
Can you help us?

1674
01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:41,540
Can you come out?

1675
01:11:46,540 --> 01:11:50,540
We've been here before, or at least I have.

1676
01:11:50,540 --> 01:11:54,540
And we think that this building is absolutely beautiful.

1677
01:11:54,540 --> 01:11:58,540
I'm sure it was one of the most beautiful buildings in Buffalo.

1678
01:11:58,540 --> 01:12:01,540
And I'm sure that the locals were very proud of it.

1679
01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:07,540
Could you tell us a little bit about its history?

1680
01:12:12,540 --> 01:12:19,540
If you worked here, can you give us a sign of the area that you worked in?

1681
01:12:19,540 --> 01:12:23,540
Can you make a noise to direct us to that area where you worked?

1682
01:12:25,540 --> 01:12:26,540
Perfect.

1683
01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:33,540
So it's further down on the right-hand side.

1684
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:34,540
Is that where you heard it?

1685
01:12:34,540 --> 01:12:35,540
That's where you heard it?

1686
01:12:35,540 --> 01:12:37,540
I heard it from in here.

1687
01:12:37,540 --> 01:12:43,540
I heard it kind of one of these piping air ducts or something.

1688
01:12:43,540 --> 01:12:45,540
If it wasn't an air duct, it could have been from anywhere.

1689
01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:47,540
That's right there and there's a game.

1690
01:12:47,540 --> 01:12:51,540
It's definitely coming from up there on the right.

1691
01:12:52,540 --> 01:12:54,540
That came from behind.

1692
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:56,540
One at a time, please.

1693
01:12:56,540 --> 01:12:57,540
One at a time.

1694
01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:02,540
I wish we could see out these damn windows.

1695
01:13:07,540 --> 01:13:09,540
It's got like a pattern in the window.

1696
01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:10,540
That's it.

1697
01:13:10,540 --> 01:13:13,540
That's if we can get another response from this.

1698
01:13:13,540 --> 01:13:28,540
If you worked in here and you worked down the main corridor and possibly off to the right,

1699
01:13:28,540 --> 01:13:30,540
can you make another noise?

1700
01:13:32,540 --> 01:13:35,540
Make another noise, please, and let us know where you worked.

1701
01:13:36,540 --> 01:13:46,540
I'm going to be a little harder on you than Barry is being right now.

1702
01:13:46,540 --> 01:13:47,540
She tends to be.

1703
01:13:47,540 --> 01:13:48,540
She tends to be.

1704
01:13:48,540 --> 01:13:50,540
I'm not a fan of knocks.

1705
01:13:50,540 --> 01:13:52,540
I can second guess knocks.

1706
01:13:52,540 --> 01:13:55,540
Can you, there's a door in front of us.

1707
01:13:55,540 --> 01:13:58,540
Can you swing that shut even just a little bit?

1708
01:13:58,540 --> 01:14:00,540
Swing it towards us.

1709
01:14:01,540 --> 01:14:04,540
You can also block out the light in the hall.

1710
01:14:08,540 --> 01:14:10,540
We just need to know for sure that it's you.

1711
01:14:15,540 --> 01:14:16,540
Train.

1712
01:14:18,540 --> 01:14:19,540
Yep.

1713
01:14:19,540 --> 01:14:22,540
Now we hear Buffalo's train coming by.

1714
01:14:25,540 --> 01:14:26,540
Well.

1715
01:14:27,540 --> 01:14:28,540
Well, I'm not hearing.

1716
01:14:28,540 --> 01:14:30,540
We are in a train station.

1717
01:14:30,540 --> 01:14:33,540
It's a good Singapore theory.

1718
01:14:33,540 --> 01:14:35,540
Is this true?

1719
01:14:35,540 --> 01:14:37,540
Are you able to tell us your name?

1720
01:14:37,540 --> 01:14:39,540
Can you come forward and tell us your name?

1721
01:14:47,540 --> 01:14:50,540
Well, I think I could fall around this right side.

1722
01:14:50,540 --> 01:14:52,540
Do you think I came from the right?

1723
01:14:52,540 --> 01:14:53,540
These offices.

1724
01:14:53,540 --> 01:14:55,540
We can't we can't get through that way.

1725
01:14:55,540 --> 01:14:59,540
The only way into those rooms are from the passageway and into the way.

1726
01:15:01,540 --> 01:15:02,540
Why please?

1727
01:15:02,540 --> 01:15:03,540
Yeah.

1728
01:15:03,540 --> 01:15:05,540
There's a wall back there.

1729
01:15:06,540 --> 01:15:08,540
You're watching Ghost Hunters Live.

1730
01:15:08,540 --> 01:15:14,540
The third floor of this building was the site of an inexplicable thermal hit during Ghost Hunters last visit.

1731
01:15:14,540 --> 01:15:19,540
Let's catch up with Steven Tango as they pick up the investigation on the third floor.

1732
01:15:20,540 --> 01:15:22,540
Tango, back there.

1733
01:15:24,540 --> 01:15:25,540
Right back there.

1734
01:15:25,540 --> 01:15:26,540
Right.

1735
01:15:26,540 --> 01:15:28,540
Black masses, they would claim.

1736
01:15:28,540 --> 01:15:31,540
That's where Jane Grant caught that thermal hit as well.

1737
01:15:31,540 --> 01:15:32,540
Right.

1738
01:15:32,540 --> 01:15:33,540
Yeah.

1739
01:15:33,540 --> 01:15:34,540
But here's the fountain.

1740
01:15:36,540 --> 01:15:37,540
Well, the shell of the fountain.

1741
01:15:37,540 --> 01:15:38,540
Should be.

1742
01:15:39,540 --> 01:15:41,540
So they see it just like this.

1743
01:15:41,540 --> 01:15:44,540
Now, do they see someone drinking at the water fountain?

1744
01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:45,540
Yeah.

1745
01:15:45,540 --> 01:15:46,540
They do?

1746
01:15:46,540 --> 01:15:47,540
They go right up like this.

1747
01:15:47,540 --> 01:15:49,540
They go in, they take a sip, and that's it.

1748
01:15:49,540 --> 01:15:51,540
Is it real or time slip?

1749
01:15:51,540 --> 01:15:52,540
Yeah, I'm not that.

1750
01:15:52,540 --> 01:15:55,540
It could absolutely be a time slip.

1751
01:15:55,540 --> 01:15:56,540
But.

1752
01:15:56,540 --> 01:15:57,540
Who knows.

1753
01:15:57,540 --> 01:15:58,540
How cool would that be?

1754
01:15:58,540 --> 01:16:01,540
You hear those claims of people saying the party's going on.

1755
01:16:01,540 --> 01:16:02,540
You know.

1756
01:16:02,540 --> 01:16:03,540
Parties.

1757
01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:04,540
Ghost parties.

1758
01:16:06,540 --> 01:16:08,540
Where did you hear about a ghost party?

1759
01:16:08,540 --> 01:16:09,540
Is it just a water fountain?

1760
01:16:09,540 --> 01:16:10,540
No, no, no.

1761
01:16:10,540 --> 01:16:12,540
Like I'm just talking about general claims.

1762
01:16:12,540 --> 01:16:13,540
Oh, yes.

1763
01:16:13,540 --> 01:16:14,540
Like at the Stanley.

1764
01:16:14,540 --> 01:16:15,540
Remember they had like a party in that.

1765
01:16:15,540 --> 01:16:16,540
Oh, in the ballroom.

1766
01:16:16,540 --> 01:16:17,540
Yeah.

1767
01:16:17,540 --> 01:16:19,540
How cool would that be?

1768
01:16:19,540 --> 01:16:21,540
Oh, yeah, just to see a time slip like this.

1769
01:16:21,540 --> 01:16:22,540
Right, exactly.

1770
01:16:22,540 --> 01:16:23,540
Yeah.

1771
01:16:23,540 --> 01:16:24,540
That'd be great.

1772
01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:25,540
Oh, man.

1773
01:16:25,540 --> 01:16:26,540
Imagine that.

1774
01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:27,540
That'd be awesome.

1775
01:16:27,540 --> 01:16:28,540
Wow.

1776
01:16:28,540 --> 01:16:29,540
Any readings on the EMF right there?

1777
01:16:29,540 --> 01:16:31,540
No, EMF has been flat.

1778
01:16:31,540 --> 01:16:33,540
Right here, anyway.

1779
01:16:34,540 --> 01:16:35,540
Hello.

1780
01:16:37,540 --> 01:16:39,540
Water fountain people.

1781
01:16:39,540 --> 01:16:41,540
You down there?

1782
01:16:41,540 --> 01:16:50,540
No, I wonder why, like, why would an actual fountain manifest with everything and not

1783
01:16:50,540 --> 01:16:54,540
just the person, not just the apparition coming and take the drink?

1784
01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:57,540
Like why a whole fountain just pop up, you know?

1785
01:16:57,540 --> 01:16:58,540
I don't know.

1786
01:16:58,540 --> 01:17:01,540
I mean, why do the clothes stay on that person?

1787
01:17:01,540 --> 01:17:03,540
They're an object as well.

1788
01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:04,540
You know what I mean?

1789
01:17:04,540 --> 01:17:05,540
Yeah.

1790
01:17:05,540 --> 01:17:08,540
That kind of makes me believe a little more of the residual side.

1791
01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:09,540
Right.

1792
01:17:09,540 --> 01:17:13,540
I mean, maybe there is something, it's just a playback happening.

1793
01:17:13,540 --> 01:17:14,540
Right.

1794
01:17:14,540 --> 01:17:16,540
And then again, we get things reacting to us.

1795
01:17:16,540 --> 01:17:17,540
Yeah.

1796
01:17:17,540 --> 01:17:19,540
Yeah, that's true.

1797
01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:27,540
I'm thirsty.

1798
01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:31,540
I know that as soon as we start walking away from this fountain, someone's going to go

1799
01:17:31,540 --> 01:17:33,540
and take a sip from it.

1800
01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:34,540
Right.

1801
01:17:34,540 --> 01:17:35,540
Well, we have a camera.

1802
01:17:35,540 --> 01:17:36,540
Yeah, we can, of course.

1803
01:17:36,540 --> 01:17:38,540
But of course, we love the circles at first hand.

1804
01:17:38,540 --> 01:17:45,540
And then we have shadows, I think.

1805
01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:46,540
I mean, look at all the windows.

1806
01:17:46,540 --> 01:17:47,540
You know what I mean?

1807
01:17:47,540 --> 01:17:51,540
Like light coming through ambient light.

1808
01:17:51,540 --> 01:17:56,540
Could that just be, you know, shadow play?

1809
01:17:56,540 --> 01:17:57,540
You know what I mean?

1810
01:17:57,540 --> 01:17:59,540
Yeah, that's true.

1811
01:17:59,540 --> 01:18:01,540
But I mean, we're really high up.

1812
01:18:01,540 --> 01:18:02,540
Yeah.

1813
01:18:02,540 --> 01:18:06,540
It's not like a car is going to be, you know?

1814
01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:09,540
But maybe a distant car, just enough with the high beam.

1815
01:18:09,540 --> 01:18:11,540
You know what I mean?

1816
01:18:11,540 --> 01:18:13,540
I don't know.

1817
01:18:13,540 --> 01:18:14,540
Could it be?

1818
01:18:14,540 --> 01:18:16,540
I don't know.

1819
01:18:16,540 --> 01:18:19,540
Yeah, we are really high, though.

1820
01:18:19,540 --> 01:18:21,540
Really high up.

1821
01:18:24,540 --> 01:18:29,540
EMF, when I was at a .1, .2.

1822
01:18:29,540 --> 01:18:33,540
But in this room, for some reason, did you see that?

1823
01:18:33,540 --> 01:18:36,540
It's like .6, .8.

1824
01:18:36,540 --> 01:18:41,540
Well, now it's at a .2, .1.

1825
01:18:41,540 --> 01:18:43,540
It was right over here.

1826
01:18:43,540 --> 01:18:45,540
But, see, what?

1827
01:18:45,540 --> 01:18:47,540
.3.

1828
01:18:47,540 --> 01:18:52,540
And now it's back down to a .1.

1829
01:18:52,540 --> 01:18:55,540
But it did go up to a .8.

1830
01:18:55,540 --> 01:18:57,540
Where were you exactly?

1831
01:18:57,540 --> 01:19:01,540
Right, probably right here.

1832
01:19:01,540 --> 01:19:03,540
And now it's a .1.

1833
01:19:03,540 --> 01:19:05,540
And there's like nothing running in there.

1834
01:19:05,540 --> 01:19:06,540
Is it getting higher?

1835
01:19:06,540 --> 01:19:09,540
Yeah, it went to a .5 as it went down.

1836
01:19:09,540 --> 01:19:11,540
.2? It's kind of being sporadic now.

1837
01:19:11,540 --> 01:19:14,540
Yeah, .1. Now it's being sporadic.

1838
01:19:14,540 --> 01:19:17,540
Hello?

1839
01:19:17,540 --> 01:19:20,540
Is there anybody in here with us?

1840
01:19:20,540 --> 01:19:22,540
It's me and my friend Dave.

1841
01:19:22,540 --> 01:19:23,540
Hello.

1842
01:19:23,540 --> 01:19:25,540
Come to talk to you.

1843
01:19:28,540 --> 01:19:30,540
Come on out. Don't be shy.

1844
01:19:30,540 --> 01:19:33,540
We're not here to hurt you.

1845
01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:38,540
We're not going to force you out of here.

1846
01:19:38,540 --> 01:19:41,540
We were supposed to catch a train downstairs.

1847
01:19:41,540 --> 01:19:43,540
We're lost.

1848
01:19:43,540 --> 01:19:50,540
Can you tell us where to go?

1849
01:19:50,540 --> 01:19:52,540
I wonder what's straight back there.

1850
01:19:52,540 --> 01:19:54,540
Have we ever been back there?

1851
01:19:54,540 --> 01:19:56,540
I don't know if we've ever been back there.

1852
01:19:56,540 --> 01:19:59,540
Was it closed off before?

1853
01:19:59,540 --> 01:20:01,540
Could that be where the shadows come from?

1854
01:20:01,540 --> 01:20:03,540
I don't know.

1855
01:20:10,540 --> 01:20:11,540
Allow me.

1856
01:20:11,540 --> 01:20:12,540
Yes.

1857
01:20:12,540 --> 01:20:15,540
Here you go please.

1858
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:17,540
See you Dave.

1859
01:20:17,540 --> 01:20:18,540
Stupid.

1860
01:20:18,540 --> 01:20:20,540
I'm stressed.

1861
01:20:22,540 --> 01:20:24,540
Here's your room Steve.

1862
01:20:24,540 --> 01:20:26,540
You'll be staying here.

1863
01:20:26,540 --> 01:20:28,540
Wow.

1864
01:20:28,540 --> 01:20:29,540
It's crazy.

1865
01:20:29,540 --> 01:20:30,540
Where is that?

1866
01:20:30,540 --> 01:20:31,540
The girl?

1867
01:20:31,540 --> 01:20:33,540
No, it's like a...

1868
01:20:33,540 --> 01:20:34,540
I don't know.

1869
01:20:34,540 --> 01:20:36,540
A sink?

1870
01:20:36,540 --> 01:20:38,540
Two offices 307.

1871
01:20:38,540 --> 01:20:40,540
310.

1872
01:20:42,540 --> 01:20:44,540
Let's do some column response.

1873
01:20:44,540 --> 01:20:46,540
Alright.

1874
01:20:46,540 --> 01:20:48,540
Just don't lean back.

1875
01:20:48,540 --> 01:20:49,540
Why?

1876
01:20:49,540 --> 01:20:50,540
Glass.

1877
01:20:50,540 --> 01:20:51,540
Fuck.

1878
01:20:53,540 --> 01:20:54,540
Something.

1879
01:20:54,540 --> 01:20:55,540
Fiddle sticks.

1880
01:20:55,540 --> 01:20:56,540
Fiddle sticks.

1881
01:20:56,540 --> 01:20:57,540
There you go.

1882
01:20:57,540 --> 01:20:58,540
That's better.

1883
01:20:58,540 --> 01:21:00,540
I almost swore.

1884
01:21:00,540 --> 01:21:03,540
Over here watch out.

1885
01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:04,540
You'll get cut up.

1886
01:21:04,540 --> 01:21:05,540
Oh yeah, we're going to break through.

1887
01:21:05,540 --> 01:21:06,540
Yeah.

1888
01:21:06,540 --> 01:21:07,540
Don't even play.

1889
01:21:07,540 --> 01:21:08,540
Stop.

1890
01:21:08,540 --> 01:21:09,540
Stop.

1891
01:21:09,540 --> 01:21:10,540
You're going to get...

1892
01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:26,540
You